I absolutely agree with Spanky's comments. Every institution differs but if we (at a med school) required that critiques be shown to administrators, the result would be anger and alienation. There is a REASON why NIH Signing Officials do not have access to a PI's reviews on eRA Commons! Even if you are dealing with faculty who are less grants savvy and clearly need guidance, I think your best approach is to offer assistance with strategizing and preparing resubmissions. You can request to see the reviews from those who express interest. Charlie Hathaway ________________________________________ From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@hrinet.org] on behalf of Mike McCallister [xxxxxx@IDEATE.COM] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:45 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Proposal Review Comments I wouldn't do this at gunpoint. If a PI is trounced and mystified as to why, they are going to talk to their colleagues and possibly to you for some insight. Your "formal" requirement will create the impression that you think that the PI's work for you, that you are a superior who has a right to information so that you can direct their activities. I assume that your intentions are to help and I understand that pink sheets are a rich source of insight, but the comments have to do with the research design about which you likely know very little detail. PI's sometimes will continue to make the same mistakes. However, they are grownups and will learn (or not) experientially. That means you don't get to see their report cards and they keep trying until they get an award. If they don't, we aren't in the salvage business, our efforts are for those with fire in their belly, not rocks in their head.. Spanky -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Waxler Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:25 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] Proposal Review Comments We are planning on implementing a formal policy which will require PIs to share reviewer comments with us. This will help us guide those who are developing re-submissions and those who have received rejections and are uncertain what course to pursue. To date, we have only asked that these comments be shared with us on an informal/volunteer basis. So, do any of you have such a policy, and how successful and useful has it been. Larry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Larry Waxler, Director Office of Sponsored Programs University of Southern Maine 15 Baxter Boulevard P.O. Box 9300 Portland, ME 04104-9300 Telephone: 207-780-4413 Telefax: 207-780-4927 ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
