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Proposal Review Comments Lawrence Waxler (19 Jan 2011 08:24 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Vogrig, Cheryl (19 Jan 2011 08:44 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Mike McCallister (19 Jan 2011 08:45 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments McMahonM@xxxxxx (19 Jan 2011 08:49 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Colin Cooper (19 Jan 2011 10:46 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Mike McCallister (19 Jan 2011 12:47 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Charles Hathaway (19 Jan 2011 09:03 EST)
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Re: Proposal Review Comments rdewey@mcdaniel.edu (19 Jan 2011 11:20 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Charles Hathaway (19 Jan 2011 14:34 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments rdewey@mcdaniel.edu (19 Jan 2011 16:29 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Theresa Defino (19 Jan 2011 11:22 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Ruth Tallman (19 Jan 2011 10:49 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Wilkinson, Judith A (19 Jan 2011 09:26 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Sharon Smith (19 Jan 2011 10:16 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Margarita M Cardona (19 Jan 2011 12:43 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Lawrence Waxler (19 Jan 2011 12:55 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments chowfornow (19 Jan 2011 10:35 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Dennis Brewer (19 Jan 2011 10:34 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Susan E Morris (19 Jan 2011 12:31 EST)
Re: Proposal Review Comments Michael Kusiak (19 Jan 2011 13:47 EST)

Re: Proposal Review Comments Charles Hathaway 19 Jan 2011 09:03 EST

I absolutely agree with Spanky's comments.  Every institution differs but if we (at a med school) required that critiques be shown to administrators, the result would be anger and alienation.  There is a REASON why NIH Signing Officials do not have access to a PI's reviews on eRA Commons!

Even if you are dealing with faculty who are less grants savvy and clearly need guidance, I think your best approach is to offer assistance with strategizing and preparing resubmissions.  You can request to see the reviews from those who express interest.

Charlie Hathaway
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From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@hrinet.org] on behalf of Mike McCallister [xxxxxx@IDEATE.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:45 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Proposal Review Comments

 I wouldn't do this at gunpoint.  If a PI is trounced and mystified as to why, they are going to talk to their colleagues and possibly to you for some insight.  Your "formal" requirement will create the impression that you think that the PI's work for you, that you are a superior who has a right to information so that you can direct their activities.  I assume that your intentions are to help and I understand that pink sheets are a rich source of insight, but the comments have to do with the research design about which you likely know very little detail.  PI's sometimes will continue to make the same mistakes.  However, they are grownups and will learn (or not) experientially.  That means you don't get to see their report cards and they keep trying until they get an award.  If they don't, we aren't in the salvage business, our efforts are for those with fire in their belly, not rocks in their head..

Spanky

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence Waxler
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:25 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] Proposal Review Comments

We are planning on implementing a formal policy which will require PIs to share reviewer comments with us. This will help us guide those who are developing re-submissions and those who have received rejections and are uncertain what course to pursue. To date, we have only asked that these comments be shared with us on an informal/volunteer basis.

So, do any of you have such a policy, and how successful and useful has it been.

Larry

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