We have decided to not submit to NIH during the shutdown, period. I know that Grants.gov is up and running and that the automated systems are very likely to be forwarding the applications to the Commons at this time. However, what is happening when the applications are reaching the Commons? Are they automatically moving forward after the 2-day validation period to the CSR (before they have been reviewed for accuracy) or are they sitting on a Commons server somewhere that may be crashed if enough applications come in and cannot be moved off to the next stage? (....having flashbacks to the earlier days of Grants.gov when the servers got overloaded and it took 3.5 days for a proposal to get to the sponsor...).  In addition, the assurance that NIH will extend the deadlines as needed has made us quite comfortable to wait to submit to NIH.

Happy Friday, everyone!

Sherie

Sherie Donahue, MS, CRA - Electronic Research Specialist
LOMA LINDA UNIVERSITY | Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs
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-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hathaway
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 7:31 AM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Shutdown-related research disruptions?

We have submitted quite a few for NIH.  Will wait for end of shutdown to see how they seep out of Gg.

My faculty got antsy and/or simply wanted to move on to other work.

Charlie

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From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] on behalf of Shuman, Candace [xxxxxx@VA.GOV]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:08 AM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Shutdown-related research disruptions?

We were instructed not to submit until the shutdown was resolved rather than to submit into the "black hole"

Are people submitting regardless of the NIH suggestion to not submit??

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Moise, Jessica
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 9:01 AM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Shutdown-related research disruptions?

The House Republicans have been passing piecemeal funding legislation. I don't think there was any implication in Mr Hathaway's comment if that was a good or bad thing, only that he'd like Commons registrations on the list. While he is offering to be pilloried, I would prefer that he not be.

I think we are all a little on edge with the shutdown.

The lack of access to the accounts section in Commons is causing us distress as well. While we are submitting into the void for most NIH grants, we have a number of new faculty where either we know they aren't affiliated yet, or we aren't quite sure and have no way to confirm (And yes I do know about the emails, but those aren't the type of emails we've ever felt the need to keep for future reference.) Those applications we are holding back, but it is annoying to have the two separate pile of submissions.

Jessica Ruth Moise
Grants and Contracts Officer
Associate Dean for Sponsored Programs
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
(formerly Mount Sinai School of Medicine)
 (212) 824-8300
 (212) 241-3294 (fax)

GCO has moved to 770 Lexington Avenue!

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Charles Hathaway
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 7:32 AM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Shutdown-related research disruptions?

It was I who started the sniping.  Is there a pillory for two?

Charlie Hathaway

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From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] on behalf of O'Geary, Steven [xxxxxx@OKSTATE.EDU]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 7:20 AM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Shutdown-related research disruptions?

Our friend Robert Beattie from the University of Michigan seems to have forgotten the true purpose of this listserv. He also seems to think the rest of us care about his political opinions/leanings. I, for one, would appreciate it if the listserve manager would keep posts like Mr. Beattie's off the list.

Steven O'Geary, Ph.D.
Assistant Vice President
Oklahoma State University

On Oct 11, 2013, at 3:13 AM, "Theresa Defino" <xxxxxx@AOL.COM> wrote:

> Robert Beattie

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