explaining subcontracts to PIs Vicki Krell (11 May 2012 11:41 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Diana L Dubinsky (11 May 2012 12:10 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Schoen, Alexander (11 May 2012 13:34 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Mike McCallister (11 May 2012 14:29 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Sharon Brown-Smith (11 May 2012 14:36 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Michael Kusiak (11 May 2012 18:54 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Baumann, John R (11 May 2012 19:53 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Manuel Corday (11 May 2012 15:14 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Mike McCallister (11 May 2012 16:00 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Katie Hudson (14 May 2012 14:46 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Charles Hathaway (11 May 2012 15:36 EST)
Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs J. Michael Slocum (11 May 2012 15:56 EST)

Re: explaining subcontracts to PIs Baumann, John R 11 May 2012 19:53 EST

How about this

- the grant was awarded to our institution
- you are the PI, the one person responsible for the scientific and
administrative conduct of the grant, of the research
- therefore, the work and budget of the subcontractor are under your
authority, your responsibility - remember, it is a subcontract, not a
grant award or even a 'subaward' whatever that is.
- therefore, the subcontract and the subcontractor - their research and
their expenses, are accountable to you and you are accountable to the
funding agency for your work, your expenditures as well as the
subcontractor's work and expenditures.
- that is why they gave you the money and not them.

John

John R. Baumann, Ph.D.
Executive Director, Human Research Protection Program
Office of Research Administration
Office of Vice President for Research
Indiana University
xxxxxx@iu.edu
812.856.7987 (IUB office)
317.278.7830 (IUPUI office)
816.695.7146 (cell)
http://researchadmin.iu.edu/cs-humsub.html

On 5/11/12 7:54 PM, "Michael Kusiak" <xxxxxx@UCOP.EDU> wrote:

>Maybe a visual representation?   A static picture /chart or animation?
>
>
>________________________________________
>From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] on
>behalf of Sharon Brown-Smith [xxxxxx@MTSU.EDU]
>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:36 PM
>To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] explaining subcontracts to PIs
>
>Vicki, NIH explains it best.
>
>³subawards/consortium/contractual² costs should include the total cost of
>the subaward, and the entire third tier award is considered part of the
>direct costs of the consortium for the purposes of calculating the
>primary applicant¹s direct costs.
>
>Sharon D. Smith, M.S., CRA
>Research Development Specialist
>MTSU Office of Research Services
>(615) 898-5894 (Office)
>(615) 898-5028 (Fax)
>
>From: Research Administration List
>[mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Vicki Krell
>Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 11:42 AM
>To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
>Subject: [RESADM-L] explaining subcontracts to PIs
>
>Is it a full moon? Can we blame an entire week on a full moon?
>
>Here¹s my real question. Does anyone have a wonderful, concise, easily
>understandable document that explains to a PI that when you add a
>subcontract to an existing award that both the direct costs and indirect
>costs for that sub come out of the prime¹s direct costs? I¹ve had this
>come up more than once this week and have had to explain to incredulous
>faculty that we don¹t simply give the subcontractor their IDC from our
>IDC.
>
>My head hurtsŠ.
>Vicki
>
>Vicki Krell, CRA
>Research Advancement Supervisor
>College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
>Research Advancement Office
>Box 876405
>Tempe, AZ  85287-6405
>(480) 965-2171
>(480) 965-1093
>mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu
>xxxxxx@mainex1.asu.edu<mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu>
>
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