E-mail Coming in Code Johnson, Landy (Director of Grant Development) 11 Nov 2005 12:02 EST
I'm not sure the origin of the code or "garbage" that appears, but I know how to reduce it. If you reply to the list by hitting "reply" in your e-mail program, type your message and then scroll down to the "original message" that appears at the bottom of your e-mail. Select and delete the entire original message.
Those who just press reply are managing to resubmit the whole mess that appeared in whatever earlier posting was viewed. If we all always delete the original message when we reply, there won't be as much of that stuff.
Approximately two digests ago, the body of the e-mail included only a few brief new messages, onto which were appended lengthy strings of old messages, which did make it very difficult to find the new stuff.
Just my two cents. As someone who recently switched from Development (Institutional Advancement) to the "academic side," I really appreciate this list.
Landy
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1. Affiliate physicians conducting research (2)
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:41:09 -0500
From: Kim Dunbrook-Babbie <xxxxxx@MAIL.AMC.EDU>
Subject: Affiliate physicians conducting research
Does anyone have any policies and procedures for outside physician
groups who contract with your facility for services for research
patients. Services are usually MRI's, Cath Lab, Labs, Bone Scans, etc.
Thanks
Kim Dunbrook-Babbie, CPA
Corporate Compliance and Audit
Albany Medical Center
xxxxxx@mail.amc.edu
518-262-5496
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:18:00 -0600
From: Geoffrey Schick <xxxxxx@AURORA.ORG>
Subject: Re: Affiliate physicians conducting research
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This response falls into two categories:
Affiliated (non-employed) physicians who utilize our department services
to "manage" the research (CRC's, contracting, budgeting, etc.) and
affiliated physicians that have their own research staff and only
"purchase" hospital services as necessitated by Protocol.
We require both groups to use our local IRB, and cooperate with "Coverage
Analysis" performed by research specialists in Medical Audit (who validate
what can be passed on to third party payors). Prices for clinical services
required by Protocol that fall outside "standard of care" are negotiated
as a % discount off charge. For those Investigators for whom we are
managing the research we have a greater ability to negotiate price points
since we can recoup dollars in other areas or in the overhead %;
Investigators remain updated on the budget negotiations and have a voice
on budget before we finalize agreement with Sponsor.
Investigators running their own research must notify us of the services
they wish a discount on, and we will extend a standard discount off
charge. If the project requires a greater discount than standard, we
present the rationale to Finance, Research Compliance Officer, and VP
Research who must all agree to the exceptional discount. Within the
"discount letter" generated to document the agreed upon prices, the
following language is included:
"The following services provided by Aurora Health Care have been approved
to receive the indicated discount, and reflect Sponsor reimbursement to
<insert name of private practice>:"
We believe this protects us should the Investigator negotiate a price
above what he/she is paying us, and pockets the difference. We would
argue the Investigator made a false representation at the time of
contracting. VP of Research and Principal Investigator both sign this
letter.
One last note: Should an affiliated physician run their own study and not
request discounts for services, that Practice is billed full charge for
services.
Geoffrey Schick
Manager, Research Contracts & Business Operations
Department of Clinical Research
Aurora Health Care, Inc.
Ph: 414.649.5903
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Albany Medical Center
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This response falls into two categories:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Affiliated (non-employed) physicians
who utilize our department services to "manage" the research
(CRC's, contracting, budgeting, etc.) and affiliated physicians that have
their own research staff and only "purchase" hospital services
as necessitated by Protocol.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We require both groups to use our local
IRB, and cooperate with "Coverage Analysis" performed by research
specialists in Medical Audit (who validate what can be passed on to third
party payors). Prices for clinical services required by Protocol that fall
outside "standard of care" are negotiated as a % discount off
charge. For those Investigators for whom we are managing the research
we have a greater ability to negotiate price points since we can recoup
dollars in other areas or in the overhead %; Investigators remain updated
on the budget negotiations and have a voice on budget before we finalize
agreement with Sponsor.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Investigators running their own research
must notify us of the services they wish a discount on, and we will extend
a standard discount off charge. If the project requires a greater
discount than standard, we present the rationale to Finance, Research Compliance
Officer, and VP Research who must all agree to the exceptional discount.
Within the "discount letter" generated to document the
agreed upon prices, the following language is included:</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial"><b>"The following services provided
by Aurora Health Care have been approved to receive the indicated discount,
and reflect Sponsor reimbursement to <insert name of private practice>:"</b></font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">We believe this protects us should the
Investigator negotiate a price above what he/she is paying us, and pockets
the difference. We would argue the Investigator made a false representation
at the time of contracting. VP of Research and Principal Investigator
both sign this letter.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">One last note: Should an affiliated
physician run their own study and not request discounts for services, that
Practice is billed full charge for services.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Geoffrey Schick<br>
Manager, Research Contracts & Business Operations<br>
Department of Clinical Research<br>
Aurora Health Care, Inc.<br>
Ph: 414.649.5903<br>
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<br><font size=2><tt>Does anyone have any policies and procedures for outside
physician<br>
groups who contract with your facility for services for research<br>
patients. Services are usually MRI's, Cath Lab, Labs, Bone Scans,
etc. <br>
<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
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Kim Dunbrook-Babbie, CPA<br>
Corporate Compliance and Audit<br>
Albany Medical Center<br>
xxxxxx@mail.amc.edu<br>
518-262-5496<br>
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:26:53 -0500
From: "Rosenberg, Laurie" <xxxxxx@OSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: email coming in code
So do mine. I have asked all our IT people and been back and forth with
the listserv people, tried unsubbing and resubbing and changing lots of
settings and nothing has worked. I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one.
If anyone has any ideas, I would be most appreciative.
Laurie Rosenberg, CRA
The Ohio State University Research Foundation
1030 Derby Hall
154 N. Oval Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210
(614) 688-4175 tel
(614) 688-8280 fax
xxxxxx@osu.edu
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:05:09 -0500
From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: email coming in code
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Probably a setting on your e-mail client. Different clients use
different language to refer to the way that they handle
decoding. Check with your IT folks for help. Or use help desk or
user's group for that client.
Chuck
At 08:39 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
>Most of my email from the list comes in code. How can this be
>rectified.? I see very few messages that can actually be read.
>
>Eleanor M. Cicinsky
>Director, PreAward Sponsored Projects Administration
>Temple University, 406 USB, 083-45
>1601 N. Broad Street
>Philadelphia, PA 19122
>(Ph) 215.204.8691
>(Fx) 215.204.7486
>(Em) <mailto:xxxxxx@temple.edu>xxxxxx@temple.edu
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:41:22 -0500
From: "Mike L. Varney" <xxxxxx@HEALTHRESEARCH.ORG>
Subject: Re: email coming in code
I don't normally monitor the list messages, so I'm late coming to this
conversation.
When you say they're coming in "code", do you mean HTML? Can you email me
(directly, not via the list) an example of the stuff you're getting? Along
with what your platform and email client is?
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So do mine. I have asked all our IT people and been back and forth with
the listserv people, tried unsubbing and resubbing and changing lots of
settings and nothing has worked. I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one.
If anyone has any ideas, I would be most appreciative.
Laurie Rosenberg, CRA
The Ohio State University Research Foundation
1030 Derby Hall
154 N. Oval Mall
Columbus, Ohio 43210
(614) 688-4175 tel
(614) 688-8280 fax
xxxxxx@osu.edu
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:05:09 -0500
From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: email coming in code
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Probably a setting on your e-mail client. Different clients use
different language to refer to the way that they handle
decoding. Check with your IT folks for help. Or use help desk or
user's group for that client.
Chuck
At 08:39 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
>Most of my email from the list comes in code. How can this be
>rectified.? I see very few messages that can actually be read.
>
>Eleanor M. Cicinsky
>Director, PreAward Sponsored Projects Administration
>Temple University, 406 USB, 083-45
>1601 N. Broad Street
>Philadelphia, PA 19122
>(Ph) 215.204.8691
>(Fx) 215.204.7486
>(Em) <mailto:xxxxxx@temple.edu>xxxxxx@temple.edu
>(Web) <http://www.research.temple.edu/>http://www.research.temple.edu
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:14:46 -0600
From: Deborah Everds <xxxxxx@NORTHWESTERN.EDU>
Subject: Faculty Incentives (6)
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Deborah
Deborah Everds, JD
CMB, Feinberg School of Medicine
Northwestern University
xxxxxx@northwestern.edu
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:16:55 -0500
>From: Robert O Webster <xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU>
>Subject: Faculty Incentives
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>The University at Albany SUNY has proposed to return some of the F&A =3D
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>awards. One proposed strategy that is being explored is having a sliding =
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>scale based on the F&A amount requested by the PI. For example, those =3D
>PI's who apply to Federal agencies using our Federal negotiated rate =3D
>would receive a higher return than PI's who apply to foundations or =3D
>other agencies that only return a fraction of the Federal F&A rate. We =3D
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>
>Robert Webster, Ph.D.
>Associate VP for Research
>The Research Foundation of State University of New York
>University at Albany
>1400 Washington Avenue, MSC 312
>Albany, New York 12222
>Phone: 518-437-4550
>Fax: 518-437-4560
>email: xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu
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>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:32:30 -0500
>From: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>
>This question appears regularly. And I seem to remember Chuck Chermside
>reminding everyone that recovered F&A is really just university funds that
>can be used in anyway the university chooses. So, regardless of the
>formulas used, isn't the concept of handing indirect cost dollars over to
>PIs problematic? Admittedly, I am only slightly more knowledgeable about
>matters of finance than my 8 year old who thinks that the dollar molecules
>he deposits in the bank will be the same molecules he withdraws, but are
>we sending the wrong message to PIs and the public when we talk about
>using indirects as incentive money?
>
>Charlie
>
>
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:39:29 -0600
>From: Mike McCallister <xxxxxx@UALR.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>
>
>I explain the redistribution to the PI's as the university "choosing
>to loose even more money on their projects." It's the university
>money, payment for services rendered, and we can do what we want with
>it. We've already lost money on the project because F&A rates never
>really cover the costs, and we decide to lose a little more to tell
>the PI it's a good thing. And to buy the Dean's good favor, too.
>
>SPanky
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0500
>From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>
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>motivators. But be sure that the program is clearly one that does
>not become a "right" in the PI's eyes -- or anyone else who gets some
>of the recovered F&A. Maybe a program that is reviewed annually?
>
>Chuck
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If when using the terminology "Faculty Incentives" you mean
Incentive Compensation based on Research Dollars, from a HHS perspective
you may have no issues "recovered F&A is really just university
funds that can be used in anyway the university chooses," but from
an IRS standpoint you may. <br><br>
Organizations which are exempt under =A7 501(c)(3), of the Internal Revenue
Code (=93IRC=94) e.g., academic and research institutions and many hospitals=
,
that allow incentive compensation based on research revenues may run
afoul of IRC =A7 4958 and become subject to =93intermediate sanctions.=94&nb=
sp;
Certain research incentive compensation arrangements may be determined to
be an =93excess benefit transactions=94 under IRC =A7 4958 by the IRS and co=
uld
subject =93disqualified individuals=94 and =93managers=94 of 501(c)(3)
organizations to intermediate sanctions. <br><br>
The intermediate sanction penalties include return of the excess amount
by the disqualified person(s), 25% or 200% in excise tax assessments
depending on the time of return, and up to a $10,000 per incident
penalty, for non-profit managers who knowingly, willfully, and without
reasonable cause allow an excess benefit transaction. <br><br>
Any research incentive compensation scheme should be reviewed carefully
by Counsel experienced in the above area, most experienced health care
attorneys are aware of this issue because of its application to incentive
compensation schemes based on revenues (i.e., Medicare, Medicaid dollars
brought in) as applied to physicians.<br><br>
A =A7 501(c)(3) entity should never use a formula when calculating research
incentive compensation based on research revenues. <br><br>
Deborah<br><br>
<br>
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<font face=3D"Century Gothic, Avant Garde">Deborah Everds, JD<br>
CMB, Feinberg School of Medicine<br>
Northwestern University<br><br>
</font>xxxxxx@northwestern.edu<br><br>
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From: Robert O Webster
<xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU><br>
Subject: Faculty Incentives<br><br>
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The Research Foundation of State University of New York<br>
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1400 Washington Avenue, MSC 312<br>
Albany, New York 12222<br>
Phone: 518-437-4550<br>
Fax: 518-437-4560<br>
email: xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu<br>
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:32:30 -0500<br>
From: Charlie Hathaway
<xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br><br>
This question appears regularly. And I seem to remember Chuck
Chermside<br>
reminding everyone that recovered F&A is really just university funds
that<br>
can be used in anyway the university chooses. So, regardless of
the<br>
formulas used, isn't the concept of handing indirect cost dollars over
to<br>
PIs problematic? Admittedly, I am only slightly more
knowledgeable about<br>
matters of finance than my 8 year old who thinks that the dollar
molecules<br>
he deposits in the bank will be the same molecules he withdraws, but
are<br>
we sending the wrong message to PIs and the public when we talk
about<br>
using indirects as incentive money?<br><br>
Charlie<br><br>
<br><br>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:39:29 -0600<br>
From: Mike McCallister
<xxxxxx@UALR.EDU><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br><br>
<br>
I explain the redistribution to the PI's as the university "choosing
<br>
to loose even more money on their projects." It's the
university <br>
money, payment for services rendered, and we can do what we want with
<br>
it. We've already lost money on the project because F&A rates
never <br>
really cover the costs, and we decide to lose a little more to tell=20
<br>
the PI it's a good thing. And to buy the Dean's good favor,
too.<br><br>
SPanky<br>
<br>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0500<br>
From: "Herbert B. Chermside"
<xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br><br>
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But remember, green rectangles are excellent motivators.<br>
If you can afford to, you can use some/all of recovered F&A as <br>
motivators. But be sure that the program is clearly one that does
<br>
not become a "right" in the PI's eyes -- or anyone else who
gets some <br>
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annually?<br><br>
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:43:23 -0500
From: Rich Chiriatti <xxxxxx@WI.MIT.EDU>
Subject: Improperly "coded" applications
Over the last two or three months, we have had pending applications that
don't show up under "status" in the Commons. This is well after having
received the assignment letters and has happened with 5 or 6
applications. After calling the Commons help desk, they do some
research and then tell me that NIH has "coded" the application
incorrectly. They fix it quickly and all is well, but I was wondering
if this has happened to others out there. More and more we are being
asked to rely on the Commons for information (especially on the back
end), so this can be problematic if the applications don't show up there.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:48:22 -0600
From: Bill Campbell <xxxxxx@UWRF.EDU>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives (6)
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I think you can dodge these F&A or IRS issues by creating a formula that
returns a portion of recovered F&A funds to the college or department
from whence the proposal originated. Deans or dept chairs can use the
funds to supplement supply and expense budgets, pay summer salaries for
PI's, support travel to conferences, or anything else that's legal in
the university.
We've been doing that for years, returning 25% to deans. Once it was
50%; the teeth gnashing that resulted from reducing it demonstrates that
faculty regard it as an incentive. They said 'why should I apply for
any grants, it's not worth it any more, 25% doesn't begin to cover my
time and effort.' Most of the gnashers were crying wolf, but not all;
our grant submissions have continued to grow, though slowly.
I know that many institutions follow a similar procedure under the
principle Spanky expressed so well: recovered F&A funds belong to the
institution to do with as it likes. Do any others have difficulties
with F&A rates or IRS as a result? Should I start worrying?
Regards, Bill
Bill Campbell
Director, Grants & Research
University of Wisconsin-River Falls
410 S. 3rd St.
River Falls, WI 54022
715/425-3195
FAX 715/425-0649
Deborah Everds wrote:
>
> If when using the terminology "Faculty Incentives" you mean Incentive
> Compensation based on Research Dollars, from a HHS perspective you may
> have no issues "recovered F&A is really just university funds that can
> be used in anyway the university chooses," but from an IRS standpoint
> you may.
>
> Organizations which are exempt under § 501(c)(3), of the Internal
> Revenue Code ("IRC") e.g., academic and research institutions and many
> hospitals, that allow incentive compensation based on research
> revenues may run afoul of IRC § 4958 and become subject to
> "intermediate sanctions." Certain research incentive compensation
> arrangements may be determined to be an "excess benefit transactions"
> under IRC § 4958 by the IRS and could subject "disqualified
> individuals" and "managers" of 501(c)(3) organizations to intermediate
> sanctions.
>
> The intermediate sanction penalties include return of the excess
> amount by the disqualified person(s), 25% or 200% in excise tax
> assessments depending on the time of return, and up to a $10,000 per
> incident penalty, for non-profit managers who knowingly, willfully,
> and without reasonable cause allow an excess benefit transaction.
>
> Any research incentive compensation scheme should be reviewed
> carefully by Counsel experienced in the above area, most experienced
> health care attorneys are aware of this issue because of its
> application to incentive compensation schemes based on revenues (i.e.,
> Medicare, Medicaid dollars brought in) as applied to physicians.
>
> A § 501(c)(3) entity should never use a formula when calculating
> research incentive compensation based on research revenues.
>
> Deborah
>
>
> Deborah Everds, JD
> CMB, Feinberg School of Medicine
> Northwestern University
>
> xxxxxx@northwestern.edu
>
>
>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:16:55 -0500
>> From: Robert O Webster <xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU>
>> Subject: Faculty Incentives
>>
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>> The University at Albany SUNY has proposed to return some of the F&A =
>> recovery back to PI's as a way to incentivize them to apply for Federal =
>> awards. One proposed strategy that is being explored is having a
>> sliding =
>> scale based on the F&A amount requested by the PI. For example, those =
>> PI's who apply to Federal agencies using our Federal negotiated rate =
>> would receive a higher return than PI's who apply to foundations or =
>> other agencies that only return a fraction of the Federal F&A rate. We =
>> would be interested in identifying any institution that has used such a =
>> scheme and to learn whether it has been successful in increasing the =
>> number of Federal applications.=20
>>
>>
>> Robert Webster, Ph.D.
>> Associate VP for Research
>> The Research Foundation of State University of New York
>> University at Albany
>> 1400 Washington Avenue, MSC 312
>> Albany, New York 12222
>> Phone: 518-437-4550
>> Fax: 518-437-4560
>> email: xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:32:30 -0500
>> From: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>>
>> This question appears regularly. And I seem to remember Chuck Chermside
>> reminding everyone that recovered F&A is really just university funds
>> that
>> can be used in anyway the university chooses. So, regardless of the
>> formulas used, isn't the concept of handing indirect cost dollars over to
>> PIs problematic? Admittedly, I am only slightly more knowledgeable
>> about
>> matters of finance than my 8 year old who thinks that the dollar
>> molecules
>> he deposits in the bank will be the same molecules he withdraws, but are
>> we sending the wrong message to PIs and the public when we talk about
>> using indirects as incentive money?
>>
>> Charlie
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:39:29 -0600
>> From: Mike McCallister <xxxxxx@UALR.EDU>
>> Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>>
>>
>> I explain the redistribution to the PI's as the university "choosing
>> to loose even more money on their projects." It's the university
>> money, payment for services rendered, and we can do what we want with
>> it. We've already lost money on the project because F&A rates never
>> really cover the costs, and we decide to lose a little more to tell
>> the PI it's a good thing. And to buy the Dean's good favor, too.
>>
>> SPanky
>>
>> Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0500
>> From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
>> Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>>
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>>
>> But remember, green rectangles are excellent motivators.
>> If you can afford to, you can use some/all of recovered F&A as
>> motivators. But be sure that the program is clearly one that does
>> not become a "right" in the PI's eyes -- or anyone else who gets some
>> of the recovered F&A. Maybe a program that is reviewed annually?
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>
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I think you can dodge these F&A or IRS issues by creating a formula
that returns a portion of recovered F&A funds to the college or
department from whence the proposal originated. Deans or dept chairs
can use the funds to supplement supply and expense budgets, pay summer
salaries for PI's, support travel to conferences, or anything else
that's legal in the university. <br>
<br>
We've been doing that for years, returning 25% to deans. Once it was
50%; the teeth gnashing that resulted from reducing it demonstrates
that faculty regard it as an incentive. They said 'why should I apply
for any grants, it's not worth it any more, 25% doesn't begin to cover
my time and effort.' Most of the gnashers were crying wolf, but not
all; our grant submissions have continued to grow, though slowly. <br>
<br>
I know that many institutions follow a similar procedure under the
principle Spanky expressed so well: recovered F&A funds belong to
the institution to do with as it likes. Do any others have
difficulties with F&A rates or IRS as a result? Should I start
worrying?<br>
<br>
Regards, Bill<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Bill Campbell
Director, Grants & Research
University of Wisconsin-River Falls
410 S. 3rd St.
River Falls, WI 54022
715/425-3195
FAX 715/425-0649
</pre>
<br>
<br>
Deborah Everds wrote:
<blockquote
cite="xxxxxx@casbah.it.northwestern.edu"
type="cite"><br>
If when using the terminology "Faculty Incentives" you mean
Incentive Compensation based on Research Dollars, from a HHS
perspective
you may have no issues "recovered F&A is really just university
funds that can be used in anyway the university chooses," but from
an IRS standpoint you may. <br>
<br>
Organizations which are exempt under § 501(c)(3), of the Internal
Revenue
Code (“IRC”) e.g., academic and research institutions and many
hospitals,
that allow incentive compensation based on research revenues may run
afoul of IRC § 4958 and become subject to “intermediate sanctions.”
Certain research incentive compensation arrangements may be determined
to
be an “excess benefit transactions” under IRC § 4958 by the IRS and
could
subject “disqualified individuals” and “managers” of 501(c)(3)
organizations to intermediate sanctions. <br>
<br>
The intermediate sanction penalties include return of the excess amount
by the disqualified person(s), 25% or 200% in excise tax assessments
depending on the time of return, and up to a $10,000 per incident
penalty, for non-profit managers who knowingly, willfully, and without
reasonable cause allow an excess benefit transaction. <br>
<br>
Any research incentive compensation scheme should be reviewed carefully
by Counsel experienced in the above area, most experienced health care
attorneys are aware of this issue because of its application to
incentive
compensation schemes based on revenues (i.e., Medicare, Medicaid
dollars
brought in) as applied to physicians.<br>
<br>
A § 501(c)(3) entity should never use a formula when calculating
research
incentive compensation based on research revenues. <br>
<br>
Deborah<br>
<br>
<br>
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CMB, Feinberg School of Medicine<br>
Northwestern University<br>
<br>
</font><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xxxxxx@northwestern.edu">xxxxxx@northwestern.edu</a><br>
<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" class="cite" cite="">Date: Wed, 9
Nov 2005 09:16:55 -0500<br>
From: Robert O Webster
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU"><xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU></a><br>
Subject: Faculty Incentives<br>
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The University at Albany SUNY has proposed to return some of the
F&A
=<br>
recovery back to PI's as a way to incentivize them to apply for Federal
=<br>
awards. One proposed strategy that is being explored is having a
sliding
=<br>
scale based on the F&A amount requested by the PI. For example,
those
=<br>
PI's who apply to Federal agencies using our Federal negotiated rate
=<br>
would receive a higher return than PI's who apply to foundations or
=<br>
other agencies that only return a fraction of the Federal F&A rate.
We =<br>
would be interested in identifying any institution that has used such a
=<br>
scheme and to learn whether it has been successful in increasing the
=<br>
number of Federal applications.=20<br>
<br>
<br>
Robert Webster, Ph.D.<br>
Associate VP for Research<br>
The Research Foundation of State University of New York<br>
University at Albany<br>
1400 Washington Avenue, MSC 312<br>
Albany, New York 12222<br>
Phone: 518-437-4550<br>
Fax: 518-437-4560<br>
email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu">xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu</a><br>
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Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:32:30 -0500<br>
From: Charlie Hathaway
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU"><xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU></a><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br>
<br>
This question appears regularly. And I seem to remember Chuck
Chermside<br>
reminding everyone that recovered F&A is really just university
funds
that<br>
can be used in anyway the university chooses. So, regardless of
the<br>
formulas used, isn't the concept of handing indirect cost dollars over
to<br>
PIs problematic? Admittedly, I am only slightly more
knowledgeable about<br>
matters of finance than my 8 year old who thinks that the dollar
molecules<br>
he deposits in the bank will be the same molecules he withdraws, but
are<br>
we sending the wrong message to PIs and the public when we talk
about<br>
using indirects as incentive money?<br>
<br>
Charlie<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:39:29 -0600<br>
From: Mike McCallister
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xxxxxx@UALR.EDU"><xxxxxx@UALR.EDU></a><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br>
<br>
<br>
I explain the redistribution to the PI's as the university "choosing
<br>
to loose even more money on their projects." It's the
university <br>
money, payment for services rendered, and we can do what we want with
<br>
it. We've already lost money on the project because F&A rates
never <br>
really cover the costs, and we decide to lose a little more to tell <br>
the PI it's a good thing. And to buy the Dean's good favor,
too.<br>
<br>
SPanky<br>
<br>
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0500<br>
From: "Herbert B. Chermside"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET"><xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET></a><br>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives<br>
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But remember, green rectangles are excellent motivators.<br>
If you can afford to, you can use some/all of recovered F&A as <br>
motivators. But be sure that the program is clearly one that does
<br>
not become a "right" in the PI's eyes -- or anyone else who
gets some <br>
of the recovered F&A. Maybe a program that is reviewed
annually?<br>
<br>
Chuck<br>
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Good Morning All:
All of the training materials that I have been using have been combined
and are located at
http://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA/era/grantsgov_docs/ggovtrain.pdf
Other Grants.gov resource links for UM staff can be found at
http://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA/era/systems.html#6
Again, just a reminder that the manual is a condensed and amended
version of the old one that was on the Grants.gov website.
The new manuals that NSF and NIH have released give step by step
directions for the different forms in the R&R 424 set. DOE also uses the
R&R 424 set for many of their app packages so either of these manuals
could help with that package as well. (This doesn't help for agencies
still using plain 424, 424A and 424B.) Links are below for NSF and NIH.
NSF's Grants.gov manual
http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/docs/grantsgovguide.pdf
NIH's Grants.gov manual
http://grants2.nih.gov/grants/funding/424/index.htm
Also had a request to audit the training sessions. If you are
interested and can arrange your travel, just check ORAA's website
http://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA and send me an email. You are more
than welcome to sit in.
Please note that these training items are geared to business folks and
faculty who are completing the grant application packages. Our office
procedures and traininging for submission to Grants.gov are being
refined now as more folks in our sponsored projects office are reviewing
electronic apps and submitting.
Have a good one-
Vonnie
Vonnie Y. Perkins
Electronic Research Administration
Program Manager
Office of Research Administration
and Advancement
3110B Lee Building
University of Maryland, College Park
Voice-301.405.4179
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<DIV>Other Grants.gov resource links for UM staff can be found at </DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA/era/systems.html#6">http=
://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA/era/systems.html#6</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Again, just a reminder that the manual is a condensed and amended =
version of the old one that was on the Grants.gov website. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The new manuals that NSF and NIH have released give step by step =
directions for the different forms in the R&R 424 set. DOE also uses =
the R&R 424 set for many of their app packages so either=
of these manuals could help with that package as well. (This =
doesn't help for agencies still using plain 424, 424A and 424B.) Links are =
below for NSF and NIH. </DIV>
<DIV> <BR>NSF's Grants.gov manual <A href=3D"http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/di=
as/policy/docs/grantsgovguide.pdf">http://www.nsf.gov/bfa/dias/policy/docs/=
grantsgovguide.pdf</A> <BR>NIH's Grants.gov manual<BR><A href=3D"http://gra=
nts2.nih.gov/grants/funding/424/index.htm">http://grants2.nih.gov/grants/fu=
nding/424/index.htm</A> <BR> <BR>Also had a request to audit the =
training sessions. If you are interested and can arrange your travel, =
just check ORAA's website <A href=3D"http://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA">h=
ttp://www.umresearch.umd.edu/ORAA</A> and send me an email. You are =
more than welcome to sit in.<BR> <BR>Please note that these training =
items are geared to business folks and faculty who are completing =
the grant application packages. Our office procedures and traininging for =
submission to Grants.gov are being refined now as more folks in =
our sponsored projects office are reviewing electronic apps and submitting.=
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Have a good one-</DIV>
<DIV>Vonnie</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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Manager<BR>Office of Research Administration <BR>and Advancement<BR>3110B =
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:07:36 -0500
From: Lynn Rollins <xxxxxx@USM.MAINE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Improperly "coded" applications
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Rich - This is of great interest to our organization because we haven't
as yet had to use Commons to verify applications. If this is happening
to you, how will it effect an organization that has submitted an NIH
grant and needs to go into Commons within 2 days to verify the
application? Since the new instructions note that "although the eRA will
make every effort to send an email summarizing download and validation
results this method of notification cannot be completely guaranteed..."
So after reading your email - I'm afraid that not only will I not
receive an email telling me it's time to verify, but I also won't see
the proposal in Commons and know that it's ready for verification. Now
that just adds to my stress level!
Lynn Ann Rollins
Associate Director of Pre-Award Services
Office of Sponsored Programs
University of Southern Maine
P O Box 9300
Portland, ME 04104-9300
207-780-4873
xxxxxx@usm.maine.edu
"A truly happy person is one who
can enjoy the scenery on a detour."
>>> xxxxxx@WI.MIT.EDU 11/10/05 11:43 AM >>>
Over the last two or three months, we have had pending applications
that
don't show up under "status" in the Commons. This is well after having
received the assignment letters and has happened with 5 or 6
applications. After calling the Commons help desk, they do some
research and then tell me that NIH has "coded" the application
incorrectly. They fix it quickly and all is well, but I was wondering
if this has happened to others out there. More and more we are being
asked to rely on the Commons for information (especially on the back
end), so this can be problematic if the applications don't show up
there.
Rich
--
Richard Chiriatti, CRA
Senior Grants Officer
Office of Sponsored Programs
Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research
5 Cambridge Center, Room 780
Cambridge, MA 02142-1493
Phone: (617) 258-5018
Fax: (617) 258-6184
E-mail: xxxxxx@wi.mit.edu
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<DIV>Rich - This is of great interest to our organization because we =
haven't as yet had to use Commons to verify applications. If this is =
happening to you, how will it effect an organization that has submitted an =
NIH grant and needs to go into Commons within 2 days to verify the =
application? Since the new instructions note that "although the eRA will =
make every effort to send an email summarizing download and validation =
results this method of notification cannot be completely guaranteed..." So =
after reading your email - I'm afraid that not only will I not receive an =
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detour."<BR><BR>>>> xxxxxx@WI.MIT.EDU 11/10/05 11:43 AM >>>=
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<DIV style=3D"COLOR: #000000">Over the last two or three months, we have =
had pending applications that <BR>don't show up under "status" in the =
Commons. This is well after having <BR>received the assignment =
letters and has happened with 5 or 6 <BR>applications. After calling =
the Commons help desk, they do some <BR>research and then tell me that NIH =
has "coded" the application <BR>incorrectly. They fix it quickly and =
all is well, but I was wondering <BR>if this has happened to others out =
there. More and more we are being <BR>asked to rely on the Commons =
for information (especially on the back <BR>end), so this can be problemati=
c if the applications don't show up there.<BR><BR>Rich<BR><BR>-- <BR>Richar=
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:18:43 -0500
From: Robert Beattie <xxxxxx@UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Improperly "coded" applications
Although a limited sample, we have submitted about 15 applications
via NIH's own electronic system eCGAP using software developed by
Cayuse, Inc. All of these were in the Commons, ready for view by the
PI and SO within an hour of submission. We used the 2 day window for
correction option for some of these and the corrected version was
likewise there quickly. We probably did 20 different submissions
with no problems on the NIH side. The PI's wanted to correct some
things which is why we had multiple submissions.
I wonder what criteria will be allowed for re-submissions with the
Grants.Gov system?
Bob
__________________________________
Robert Beattie
Managing Senior Project Representative
for Electronic Research Administration
Division of Research Development and Administration
University of Michigan
3003 S. State Street Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1274
office: 734 936-1283 mobile: 734 717-6281
xxxxxx@umich.edu
On Nov 10, 2005, at 12:07 PM, Lynn Rollins wrote:
Rich - This is of great interest to our organization because we
haven't as yet had to use Commons to verify applications. If this is
happening to you, how will it effect an organization that has
submitted an NIH grant and needs to go into Commons within 2 days to
verify the application? Since the new instructions note that
"although the eRA will make every effort to send an email summarizing
download and validation results this method of notification cannot be
completely guaranteed..." So after reading your email - I'm afraid
that not only will I not receive an email telling me it's time to
verify, but I also won't see the proposal in Commons and know that
it's ready for verification. Now that just adds to my stress level!
Lynn Ann Rollins
Associate Director of Pre-Award Services
Office of Sponsored Programs
University of Southern Maine
P O Box 9300
Portland, ME 04104-9300
207-780-4873
xxxxxx@usm.maine.edu
"A truly happy person is one who
can enjoy the scenery on a detour."
>>> xxxxxx@WI.MIT.EDU 11/10/05 11:43 AM >>>
Over the last two or three months, we have had pending applications that
don't show up under "status" in the Commons. This is well after having
received the assignment letters and has happened with 5 or 6
applications. After calling the Commons help desk, they do some
research and then tell me that NIH has "coded" the application
incorrectly. They fix it quickly and all is well, but I was wondering
if this has happened to others out there. More and more we are being
asked to rely on the Commons for information (especially on the back
end), so this can be problematic if the applications don't show up
there.
Rich
--
Richard Chiriatti, CRA
Senior Grants Officer
Office of Sponsored Programs
Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research
5 Cambridge Center, Room 780
Cambridge, MA 02142-1493
Phone: (617) 258-5018
Fax: (617) 258-6184
E-mail: xxxxxx@wi.mit.edu
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:33:46 -0600
From: Debbie Smith <xxxxxx@UTMEM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Improperly "coded" applications
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While I'm not a big fan of this whole process, I am confident that the =
agencies will work with us to be sure the proposals that are submitted =
are actually accepted for review. Most of the agencies with which I =
have worked have been very cooperative and supportive.
Debbie Smith
Deborah (Debbie) L. Smith, Ed.D.
Director, Research Administration
UT Health Science Center
910 Madison, Suite 823
Memphis, TN 38163
901 448-4823
901 448-7600 fax
xxxxxx@utmem.edu
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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Improperly "coded" applications
Rich - This is of great interest to our organization because we =
haven't as yet had to use Commons to verify applications. If this is =
happening to you, how will it effect an organization that has submitted =
an NIH grant and needs to go into Commons within 2 days to verify the =
application? Since the new instructions note that "although the eRA will =
make every effort to send an email summarizing download and validation =
results this method of notification cannot be completely guaranteed..." =
So after reading your email - I'm afraid that not only will I not =
receive an email telling me it's time to verify, but I also won't see =
the proposal in Commons and know that it's ready for verification. Now =
that just adds to my stress level!
Lynn Ann Rollins
Associate Director of Pre-Award Services
Office of Sponsored Programs
University of Southern Maine
P O Box 9300
Portland, ME 04104-9300
207-780-4873
xxxxxx@usm.maine.edu
"A truly happy person is one who=20
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>>> xxxxxx@WI.MIT.EDU 11/10/05 11:43 AM >>>
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Rich
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Office of Sponsored Programs
Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research
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Cambridge, MA 02142-1493
Phone: (617) 258-5018
Fax: (617) 258-6184
E-mail: xxxxxx@wi.mit.edu
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whole process,=20
I am confident that the agencies will work with us to be sure the =
proposals=20
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with which I have worked have been very cooperative and =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Debbie Smith</FONT></DIV>
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Ed.D.<BR>Director,=20
Research Administration<BR>UT Health Science Center<BR>910 Madison, =
Suite=20
823<BR>Memphis, TN 38163<BR>901 448-4823<BR>901 448-7600 fax<BR><A =
href=3D"mailto:xxxxxx@utmem.edu">xxxxxx@utmem.edu</A></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 10, =
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<DIV>Rich - This is of great interest to our organization because we =
haven't=20
as yet had to use Commons to verify applications. If this is happening =
to you,=20
how will it effect an organization that has submitted an NIH grant and =
needs=20
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new=20
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notification=20
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afraid=20
that not only will I not receive an email telling me it's time to =
verify, but=20
I also won't see the proposal in Commons and know that it's ready for=20
verification. Now that just adds to my stress level!</DIV>
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<DIV>Lynn Ann Rollins<BR>Associate Director of Pre-Award =
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Sponsored Programs<BR>University of Southern Maine<BR>P O Box=20
9300<BR>Portland, ME 04104-9300</DIV>
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<DIV>"A truly happy person is one who <BR>can enjoy the scenery on a=20
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<DIV style=3D"COLOR: #000000">Over the last two or three months, we =
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Commons. This is well after having <BR>received the assignment =
letters=20
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and=20
more we are being <BR>asked to rely on the Commons for information =
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don't=20
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CRA<BR>Senior=20
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The Office of Sponsored Research at Allegheny-Singer Research Institute has
the following job opportunity available for interested candidates:
Senior Grants Specialist:
The Senior Grants Specialist will be responsible to direct, develop and
coordinate pre-award and post-award non-financial activities for proposals
submitted to federal and non-federal funding sources resulting in award
documents including grants, contracts, federal clinical trials, external
agreements and intramural grants. Additional responsibilities include
overseeing all grant submissions processed through the department and to
cross train departmental employees and investigators new to the grants
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Qualifications: Bachelor's degree or equivalent combination of education and
experience. A minimum of 3-5 years prior experience as Grants Specialist.
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independently with developed problem solving, decision-making and
organizational skills. Well-developed oral and written communication and
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meet deadlines and be able to work under deadline pressure.
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coordinate pre-award and post-award non-financial activities for proposals
submitted to federal and non-federal funding sources resulting in award
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:18:37 -0500
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Research Compliance Assistant
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and managing all activities pertinent to Institutional Review Board
submission of clinical trials to assure compliance with institutional,
local, state and federal policies/procedures, regulations, guidelines and
laws. Additional responsibilities include developing internal study budgets
to ensure that organizational costs are covered, and obtaining coverage
determinations to assure compliance with appropriate billing practices.
Qualifications: BA/BS degree or 10 years recent healthcare and/or nursing
experience. Minimum 5 years recent research experience preferred. Must be
proficient with computers and various software applications. Function
independently with developed problem solving, decision-making and
organizational skills. Well-developed oral and written communication and
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large and small audiences, address multiple complex tasks simultaneously and
meet deadlines. Current PA RN licensure and/or Clinical Research Coordinator
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federal policies/procedures, regulations, guidelines and laws. Additional
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assure compliance with appropriate billing practices.</P>
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experience. Minimum 5 years recent research experience preferred. Must be
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analytical skills with the ability to present to large and small audiences,
address multiple complex tasks simultaneously and meet deadlines. Current PA RN
licensure and/or Clinical Research Coordinator Certification preferred.</P>
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:10:57 -0500
From: Susan Meslang <xxxxxx@TCC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives (6)
Does this apply to allowing a portion of the collected IDC go to the PI's department for use by the PI for such things as travel to professional conferences, purchase of lab equipment, computer etc for work use - not direct pay to the PI?
"If we knew what it was we were doing, It would not be research would it?"
Albert Einstein
Susan W. Meslang
Director of Grants and Sponsored Programs
Tidewater Community College
500 East Main Street
Norfolk VA 23510
P.O. Box 9000
Norfolk VA 23509
Office 757 822-1773
Cell 757 409-2887
Fax 757 822-1007
xxxxxx@tcc.edu
>>> xxxxxx@NORTHWESTERN.EDU 11/10/05 11:14 AM >>>
If when using the terminology "Faculty Incentives" you mean Incentive
Compensation based on Research Dollars, from a HHS perspective you may have
no issues "recovered F&A is really just university funds that can be used
in anyway the university chooses," but from an IRS standpoint you may.
Organizations which are exempt under § 501(c)(3), of the Internal Revenue
Code ("IRC") e.g., academic and research institutions and many hospitals,
that allow incentive compensation based on research revenues may run afoul
of IRC § 4958 and become subject to "intermediate sanctions." Certain
research incentive compensation arrangements may be determined to be an
"excess benefit transactions" under IRC § 4958 by the IRS and could subject
"disqualified individuals" and "managers" of 501(c)(3) organizations to
intermediate sanctions.
The intermediate sanction penalties include return of the excess amount by
the disqualified person(s), 25% or 200% in excise tax assessments depending
on the time of return, and up to a $10,000 per incident penalty, for
non-profit managers who knowingly, willfully, and without reasonable cause
allow an excess benefit transaction.
Any research incentive compensation scheme should be reviewed carefully by
Counsel experienced in the above area, most experienced health care
attorneys are aware of this issue because of its application to incentive
compensation schemes based on revenues (i.e., Medicare, Medicaid dollars
brought in) as applied to physicians.
A § 501(c)(3) entity should never use a formula when calculating research
incentive compensation based on research revenues.
Deborah
Deborah Everds, JD
CMB, Feinberg School of Medicine
Northwestern University
xxxxxx@northwestern.edu
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 09:16:55 -0500
>From: Robert O Webster <xxxxxx@UAMAIL.ALBANY.EDU>
>Subject: Faculty Incentives
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>The University at Albany SUNY has proposed to return some of the F&A =
>recovery back to PI's as a way to incentivize them to apply for Federal =
>awards. One proposed strategy that is being explored is having a sliding =
>scale based on the F&A amount requested by the PI. For example, those =
>PI's who apply to Federal agencies using our Federal negotiated rate =
>would receive a higher return than PI's who apply to foundations or =
>other agencies that only return a fraction of the Federal F&A rate. We =
>would be interested in identifying any institution that has used such a =
>scheme and to learn whether it has been successful in increasing the =
>number of Federal applications.=20
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>
>Robert Webster, Ph.D.
>Associate VP for Research
>The Research Foundation of State University of New York
>University at Albany
>1400 Washington Avenue, MSC 312
>Albany, New York 12222
>Phone: 518-437-4550
>Fax: 518-437-4560
>email: xxxxxx@uamail.albany.edu
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>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:32:30 -0500
>From: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>
>This question appears regularly. And I seem to remember Chuck Chermside
>reminding everyone that recovered F&A is really just university funds that
>can be used in anyway the university chooses. So, regardless of the
>formulas used, isn't the concept of handing indirect cost dollars over to
>PIs problematic? Admittedly, I am only slightly more knowledgeable about
>matters of finance than my 8 year old who thinks that the dollar molecules
>he deposits in the bank will be the same molecules he withdraws, but are
>we sending the wrong message to PIs and the public when we talk about
>using indirects as incentive money?
>
>Charlie
>
>
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:39:29 -0600
>From: Mike McCallister <xxxxxx@UALR.EDU>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
>
>
>I explain the redistribution to the PI's as the university "choosing
>to loose even more money on their projects." It's the university
>money, payment for services rendered, and we can do what we want with
>it. We've already lost money on the project because F&A rates never
>really cover the costs, and we decide to lose a little more to tell
>the PI it's a good thing. And to buy the Dean's good favor, too.
>
>SPanky
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:11:36 -0500
>From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
>Subject: Re: Faculty Incentives
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>But remember, green rectangles are excellent motivators.
>If you can afford to, you can use some/all of recovered F&A as
>motivators. But be sure that the program is clearly one that does
>not become a "right" in the PI's eyes -- or anyone else who gets some
>of the recovered F&A. Maybe a program that is reviewed annually?
>
>Chuck
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:26:49 -0800
From: Pat Shockley <xxxxxx@PHI.ORG>
Subject: I passed!
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Yippee! Thanks to everyone for your help. I am now officially a CRA!
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Pat Shockley, CRA
Development Specialist II
Public Health Institute
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Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:37:35 -0500
From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
Subject: Re: email coming in code
Probably no help, but there are two things that sometimes fix things
when it seems nothing else works -- no good reason, but these
probably flush out the gremlins.
1) Shut down everything: close each program. Turn off computer
-- OFF -- unplug if you must! (Many computers these days keep a
trickle of current that seems to feed the gremlins if you don't
unplug!) Turn off all peripherals, especially if you have a high
speed modem or a wireless network (like a home system). Turn back on
in this order: modem, wireless network, computer.
2) Uninstall and reinstall the program that gives trouble -- but be
sure you save files such as mailboxes, nicknames, etc. just in case
the uninstall wipes them out.
This is NOT advice from an IT specialist, just someone who has often
saved his bacon by using these tricks to fix something that goes
wrong after it worked right.
Be advised that MS Windows (any version) has a "Registry" which
supposedly many things. (I think it is the master book of magic
spells!) It can get screwed up, sometimes. DO NOT mess with it
unless you know what you are doing, and in any case BACK IT UP before
tweaking it.
And don't forget that there are help forums out there for almost all
programs. Try Googling [program name] help forum, or similar.
Chuck
At 09:26 AM 11/10/2005, you wrote:
>So do mine. I have asked all our IT people and been back and forth with
>the listserv people, tried unsubbing and resubbing and changing lots of
>settings and nothing has worked. I guess I'm glad I'm not the only one.
>
>If anyone has any ideas, I would be most appreciative.
>
>
>Laurie Rosenberg, CRA
>The Ohio State University Research Foundation
>1030 Derby Hall
>154 N. Oval Mall
>Columbus, Ohio 43210
>(614) 688-4175 tel
>(614) 688-8280 fax
>xxxxxx@osu.edu
>
>
>Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 15:05:09 -0500
>From: "Herbert B. Chermside" <xxxxxx@VERIZON.NET>
>Subject: Re: email coming in code
>
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>
>Probably a setting on your e-mail client. Different clients use
>different language to refer to the way that they handle
>decoding. Check with your IT folks for help. Or use help desk or
>user's group for that client.
>
>Chuck
>
>
>At 08:39 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote:
> >Most of my email from the list comes in code. How can this be
> >rectified.? I see very few messages that can actually be read.
> >
> >Eleanor M. Cicinsky
> >Director, PreAward Sponsored Projects Administration
> >Temple University, 406 USB, 083-45
> >1601 N. Broad Street
> >Philadelphia, PA 19122
> >(Ph) 215.204.8691
> >(Fx) 215.204.7486
> >(Em) <mailto:xxxxxx@temple.edu>xxxxxx@temple.edu
> >(Web) <http://www.research.temple.edu/>http://www.research.temple.edu
> >
> >
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>Executive Director, Research Administrators Certification Council
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