Hi-

I strongly agree with Jennifer and disagree with Barbara.
It IS a "big deal" to present documentation vis-a-vis consultants.  Aside
from possible ethical side-stepping, a proposal is strengthened by letters
of support.  For a younger investigator, these can often mean the
difference between grant and no grant.

And I would add to Jennifer's arguments by saying that letters of
support/participation from consultants should be well-written and strongly
written.  Dropping names is seen as nothing more than that UNLESS reviewers
get a feeling that there is real interest in a project and some evidence
that the consultant or collaborator will benefit his/her self from the
work, and not just financially.

Charlie Hathaway

At 08:16 AM 4/15/99 -0600, you wrote:
>We're having a debate here as to the responsibilities of a research
>administrator.  I would appreciate input from the list.
>
>Collaborative proposals get submitted involving a number of faculty/research
>staff across various colleges and centers (but within the institution).
We ask
>for signatures from the PI, dept chairs, and the corresponding dean of the
>college, and we try to get signatures from co-I (s) and corresponding dean(s)
>(cooperation is spotty in some cases).  However, these proposals list
>collaborators from the institution that are not co-I (s) and therefore
there is
>no indication that they have agreed to participate.
>
>We have had a group submit proposals naming collaborators who I found were
>unaware of the existance of the proposal.  While technical discussions had
>previously taken place, no definite commitment had been made.
>
>A situation has come up in which investigators (who I was under the
impression
>were not going to participate) are listed as collaborators on a proposal from
>that same group.  Some in our office have said that it isn't our job to
question
>or confirm participants.  We have to believe those persons submitting the
>proposal.
>
>With that long intro, my questions are:
>
>What are the practices at your institution on this?
>Do you agree that it isn't our job?
>Is it no big deal?
>
>
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