Re: concept of the Co-Principal Investigator Charles E. Graham 08 Mar 1999 15:50 EST
Karen, I thought this would interest you - C. At 11:22 AM 3/8/1999 -0500, you wrote: >Long, long ago there was the concept of "Corresponding PI". This was the >PI among a group of co-PI's who got saddled with tha administrative burden >of handling all the project's aqdministration, while all the co-PI's shared >equally in the science. Many researchers hark back to this in their own >concept of "co-PI". > >NIH recognizes only one PI because the responsibility for the >administrative -- and scientific -- decisions which have to be made on a >project should be the responsiobility of one individual. > >Some other agencies recognize co-investigators as equals, at least >scientifically, and have no recognition of a single individual being >"responsible" (though they often correspond with the first name listed). > >So, an institution's treatment of the "co-investigator" concept depends on >hot the institution itself approaches management of research projects. In >my experience, unless there is a single individual with both the >responsibility and the authority to manage the project, necessary things >won't get done, and everybody thinks, "George was supposed to do that!" >So, whatever the name you give the position, one person should be in charge >and is best called "PI", and other scientific colleagues (with heavy >scientific responsibilities in the project) should be called "co-PI", and >the relationship among the researchers is the responsibility of the PI. > >Of course, the concept of credit comes up, especially if promotion, tenure, >and salary review rely heavily on individuals' research activity. If the >sponsored programs office's records are relied on as a record of the >activities toward P&T&$, then the question of what activities are recorded >and with what "title" is one which should be answered in collaboration with >senior academic decision makers. > >The duties of a co-PI probably are, scientifically, technically and >academically, on a level with the PI (not the same duties, or why two >people), without the additional management duty of formal leadership. > >Chuck > > >At 10:29 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm looking for a good definition of a Co-Principal Investigator. I >>noticed in the NIH Manual that a Co-PI is not formally recognized by >>NIH. NIH staff conduct official business only with the PI and AIO. >> >>I'd like to know how you would define the roles/duties of the Co-PI on a >>grant. >> >>Thank you, >> >>Eleanor Cicinsky >>Temple University >> >> >>====================================================================== >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >>====================================================================== >> >Herbert B. Chermside, CRA >Director, Sponsored Programs Administration >Virginia Commonwealth University >PO BOX 980568 >Richmond, VA 23298-0568 >Express Delivery Only: > Sanger Hall, Rm. 1-073 > 11th & Marshall Streets > Richmond, VA 23219 >Voice: 804-828-6772 >Fax 804-828-2521 >OFFICE e-mail xxxxxx@VCU.EDU >Personal e-mail xxxxxx@vcu.edu >http://views.vcu.edu/views/ospa/ > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > **************************************************** * Charles E. Graham, PhD., DSc. * * xxxxxx@lsu.edu * (alias to xxxxxx@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu [faster]) * * Director, Office of Sponsored Research/OSR * Interim Chair, Institutional Review Board * 117 David Boyd Hall, Louisiana State University * Baton Rouge, LA 70803 * * 225-388-8692 FAX: 225-388-6792 *** NOTE NEW AREA CODE!!!*** * OSR Server: http://www.osr.lsu.edu/ ***************************************************** ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================