Re: concept of the Co-Principal Investigator Peter J. Dolce 08 Mar 1999 11:32 EST
Ditto what Herb Chermside said, except that we very strongly urge investigators to use the term "coinvestigator" rather than "co-principal investigator." Of course, most of our applications go to NIH, so the issue seldom arises. Herbert B. Chermside wrote: > Long, long ago there was the concept of "Corresponding PI". This was the > PI among a group of co-PI's who got saddled with tha administrative burden > of handling all the project's aqdministration, while all the co-PI's shared > equally in the science. Many researchers hark back to this in their own > concept of "co-PI". > > NIH recognizes only one PI because the responsibility for the > administrative -- and scientific -- decisions which have to be made on a > project should be the responsiobility of one individual. > > Some other agencies recognize co-investigators as equals, at least > scientifically, and have no recognition of a single individual being > "responsible" (though they often correspond with the first name listed). > > So, an institution's treatment of the "co-investigator" concept depends on > hot the institution itself approaches management of research projects. In > my experience, unless there is a single individual with both the > responsibility and the authority to manage the project, necessary things > won't get done, and everybody thinks, "George was supposed to do that!" > So, whatever the name you give the position, one person should be in charge > and is best called "PI", and other scientific colleagues (with heavy > scientific responsibilities in the project) should be called "co-PI", and > the relationship among the researchers is the responsibility of the PI. > > Of course, the concept of credit comes up, especially if promotion, tenure, > and salary review rely heavily on individuals' research activity. If the > sponsored programs office's records are relied on as a record of the > activities toward P&T&$, then the question of what activities are recorded > and with what "title" is one which should be answered in collaboration with > senior academic decision makers. > > The duties of a co-PI probably are, scientifically, technically and > academically, on a level with the PI (not the same duties, or why two > people), without the additional management duty of formal leadership. > > Chuck > > At 10:29 AM 3/8/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I'm looking for a good definition of a Co-Principal Investigator. I > >noticed in the NIH Manual that a Co-PI is not formally recognized by > >NIH. NIH staff conduct official business only with the PI and AIO. > > > >I'd like to know how you would define the roles/duties of the Co-PI on a > >grant. > > > >Thank you, > > > >Eleanor Cicinsky > >Temple University > > > > > >====================================================================== > > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > >====================================================================== > > > Herbert B. Chermside, CRA > Director, Sponsored Programs Administration > Virginia Commonwealth University > PO BOX 980568 > Richmond, VA 23298-0568 > Express Delivery Only: > Sanger Hall, Rm. 1-073 > 11th & Marshall Streets > Richmond, VA 23219 > Voice: 804-828-6772 > Fax 804-828-2521 > OFFICE e-mail xxxxxx@VCU.EDU > Personal e-mail xxxxxx@vcu.edu > http://views.vcu.edu/views/ospa/ > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== -- Peter J. Dolce, Ph.D., Director Office of Research Support Services Meharry Medical College Nashville, TN 37208 P (615) 327 6703 F (615) 327 6716 ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================