Is there no "unsponsored" research going on at your institution?
The approvals associated with animal and human use is independent
of the source of the funds.  How do you keep track of the departmental
level research done by faculty and students such as surveys and
start up money projects done by new faculty prior to their
applying for a grant?
Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu
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>From: Research Administration Discussion List on Tue, Feb 2, 1999 11:53 AM
>Subject: Re: When is a grant a grant?
>To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
>
>Good point.  I would have no way to know if there were human subjects or
>animal subjects involved if an internal proposal did not go through the
>grants office.
>
>
>
>
>"Peter J. Dolce" <xxxxxx@CCVAX.MMC.EDU> on 02/02/99 09:08:58 AM
>
>Please respond to Research Administration Discussion List
>      <xxxxxx@hrinet.org>
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> To:      xxxxxx@hrinet.org
>
> cc:      (bcc: Nancy Peterson/Winona)
>
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>
> Subject: Re: When is a grant a grant?
>
>I'm curious to know how the university detects projects involving human
>subjects,
>animals or recombinant DNA in these internally-managed grant programs.
>We're a
>private institution, but from time to time one of our schools finds funds
>(usually from a private sponsor) with which to run an internal competition.
>We
>in the sponsored research office don't process the applications; since we
>are the
>university's sensor for the regulatory committees, the university has no
>formal
>way of monitoring these competitions for animals, human subjects or rDNA.
>Usually the person running the competition is conscientious about letting
>us
>know, but . . . . trust but verify.  How do y'all verify?
>
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