Re: (Fwd) Postdocs Sharon Jackiw 23 Nov 1998 08:44 EST
Kathy Sukanek's inquiry repeats one I made to this list several weeks ago. Colleagues from six institutions that recognized both postdoctoral employees and postdoctoral trainees responded to me directly. And colleagues from twelve other institutions asked me to let them know what I learned, so I am posting this summary to the list. The distinction between associates (employees) and fellows (trainees) in postdoctoral position is exclusively one of sponsor intent. Fellows are fellows because they have been so designated by an extramural sponsor, or because they are supported by an extramurally sponsored training grant requiring that be appointed as fellows. Associates may in fact be performing the same activities, in the same place, under the same supervision, and at the same time, though one of them is an employee and the other is not. Procedurally, the six responding institutions differ in their implementation of the distinction. For example, some pay fellows through accounts payable and issue a 1099 to the IRS, while others pay them through payroll (though without tax withholding) and issue an annual "tax letter" to the fellow to document the amount of stipend paid. The real procedural difficulties probably come at the supervisory level, particularly when the extramural sponsor stipulates the benefits to which the fellow is entitled. Some fellowships, for example, make fellows eligible for regular host university holidays, but not for vacation. Some specify the length of family leave benefits. Some provide health insurance only for the fellow, others also for the fellow's dependents. And others allow the host university to establish policy in these areas. The result is that a lab director may appoint in the same lab and apparently at the same job not only both employees and fellows, but also fellows with different levels of compensation and different benefit packages. The University of Wisconsin has an interesting category of Employee-in-Training which includes postdoctoral associates and other positions whose common features include (1) required or desired professional development at a postgraduate level, (2) limitations on the time that may be spent in the category, and (3) reduced levels of employee benefits. You can learn more about it at http://www.wisc.edu/ohr . Herbert Chermside of Virginia Commonwealth University faxed me several pages of pertinent information from his home university, the NIH, and the IRS. I'll be glad to repay his kindness by faxing them to any list readers who request them. Please email such requests to me directly, not to the list. And thanks to everyone else who helped with this inquiry. > I would like to know how your institution "handles" postdocs. At our > institution we have 3 "categories" of payment - faculty &staff, consultant, > student. > > Postdocs are usually handled by one of these categories, which, of > course, is not a very good "fit". > > Does your institution have similar categories? If you have a category > of "training" or something similar that is more tailored to the > nature of postdocs, I would appreciate hearing from you. > > Thank you. > > kathy > > > Kathy Sukanek 601-232-7482 > Associate Director of Research > The University of Mississippi 601-232-7577 (fax) > 125 Old Chemistry xxxxxx@olemiss.edu > University, Mississippi 38677 > > > > > Kathy Sukanek 601-232-7482 > Associate Director of Research > The University of Mississippi 601-232-7577 (fax) > 125 Old Chemistry xxxxxx@olemiss.edu > University, Mississippi 38677 > Sharon Jackiw, Associate Director Office of Research and Sponsored Programs University of Maine 5717 Corbett Hall Orono ME 04469-5717 phone 207.581.1480 fax 207.581.1479 xxxxxx@maine.edu