Charlie and Listservers-
I've done and reviewed some of these.  You still have to do a budget for
internal purposes and for calculating indirect costs.  Yes you do still get
the same amount of indirect costs.

In my experience, investigators will normally shoot for a number for a
budget, for example $150K... then build a budget to land somewhere
near that number.  This is essentially the same thing.

I know there was a lot of controversy surrounding the adoption of these,
but I think it will make the review process focus back to the science
rather than whether or not someone needs 3 new pipettmen or 4.
-Jennifer

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>>> Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@AECOM.YU.EDU> 08/05/98 02:10pm
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Hi-
It seems that modular research grants will be adopted for NIH
applications
effective 1 Feb 99.  In short, for competing applications requesting under
$250,000 direct costs, no itemized budget will be required.  Budget info
will be provided in narrative form in modules of $25,000. [The above is
summarized from The Blue Sheet, 15 July].

Now, my questions...

Has anyone been involved in the pilot testing for this concept?  And if so:

How were budget categories delineated such that indirect cost
calculations
could be made?  Did you recover the same IC as under the old method?

If the total cost for all equipment, supplies, travel, and other expenses
equals 3 modules, does the budget narrative begin to look like an itemized
budget?  Or does it just say "Here's all the stuff I need" and leave the
reader to imagine whether the stuff is worth 3 modules or 1 module?

Any new problems dealing with faculty?

thanks very much,

Charlie

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