This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0F9CFCCDD213D1BB90283E22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After reading the responses I think a key word is "fiduciary" in response to last minute proposals. Here at UNM I process the proposals for our Centers, Insitutes, Branch campus as well as our Supercomputing Center in Maui, HI, from $15K to $5M proposals. Most are submitted on time and properly prepared, however I have received last minute or after the fact proposals. Dependent upon the situation most can be resolved with a minimum of heartburn. The small number in the past year (maybe 5 or 6) resulted in either the proposal not being processed or an agency being notified that the proposal they had received did not have University approval. For the PI(s) involved I explained to them that as a state institution my fiduciary responsiblity is to the University as a whole and I will not waive that responsiblity. Key to this is having a supervisor who supports my position as well as our Associate Provost for Research. P.S. Being a retired USAF CMSgt doesn't hurt when dealing with the 1% of PIs who just don't get it. Cheers Evelyn Ford wrote: > I echo Marcia's and Bill's sentiments. My use of the expression "line > in the sand" was quite tongue in cheek -- it's very hard to draw a > line in the shifting sand! I believe the most we can hope for is to > establish some reasonable guidelines then go with the flow. It would > be interesting, however, to hear if anyone has flatly refused to send > out an application because of lack of adherence to institutional > deadlines. Instead I hear tales of red-eye flights to D.C. or > same-day messenger service, etc. Is there someone out there who has > dealt with a truly unrepentent procrastinator who would share his/her > experience? > > >>> Marcia Weis <xxxxxx@PATH.UAB.EDU> - 2/25/98 6:27 PM >>> > Bill, this is what I've been thinking about while reading these. > Yes, > it is frustrating when proposals come in at inconvenient times and/or > the last minute. Of course, a lot could have been averted by better > planning on the part of the PI. However, we are here to further the > success of our investigators and our institutions. Not submitting > the > proposal that just could have made a difference to the career of the > investigator, the status of the institution, or to the world at large > because it didn't get in the appropriate number of days in advance > would > be a real shame . . . and we would be to blame. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bill Kirby [SMTP:xxxxxx@POSTOFFICE.WORLDNET.ATT.NET] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 12:13 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list RESADM-L > > Subject: Re: Internal Proposal Submission deadline survey > -Reply > > -Reply > > > > I have been following this thread with a lot of interest. Seems > like > > many > > institutions try to enforce deadline limits, with predictable > results. > > I > > know this will provoke a firestorm: Why is it that when every other > > "business" that I can think of is trying to move toward "anytime, > > anyplace" > > service in order to stay competitive, some research administrators > are > > trying to "draw lines in the sand"? I realize proposals are not > > anything > > like sending flowers at the last moment, but come on folks... Is > this > > the > > way to add value to the process? > > > > Bill Kirby > > xxxxxx@worldnet.att.net > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gerald McCulloh <xxxxxx@WPO.IT.LUC.EDU>; Research > > Administration > > Discussion Group <xxxxxx@health.state.ny.us> > > To: Multiple recipients of list RESADM-L > <xxxxxx@health.state.ny.us> > > Date: Thursday, February 19, 1998 5:51 PM > > Subject: Internal Proposal Submission deadline survey -Reply -Reply > > > > > > >Lines drawn in the sand. No there's a metaphor whose time has > come. > > >The formal statement of a deadline policy is needed to protect > staff > > >from thoughtless abuse by those who make their own emergency > everyone > > >else's. The frequent exception is appropriate accommodation to an > > >imperfect world. Too much time solving the dilemma is better spent > > >elsewhere. My next line in the sand is____________________ -- Peter G. Weber, Jr., Contracts & Grants Administrator Office of Research Services University of New Mexico 102 Scholes Hall Albuquerque, NM 87131 (505) 277-7575 (Voice) (505) 277-4596 or 5567(Fax) E-mail: xxxxxx@unm.edu --------------0F9CFCCDD213D1BB90283E22 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Peter G. Weber, Jr. Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Peter G. 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