The fact of the matter is that anyone who has a "visiting scholar"
probably has had the same search over and over again.  This in itself
more than meets the HR standards of "open search".   On the other
hand, it probably should be looked at as "within the most qualified
'student' applicant sphere", rather than  "a 'real' employment position"
despite the fact that it is 'real employment'.

>>> Research Administration Discussion Group
<xxxxxx@health.state.ny.us> 2/24/97  10:27 am >>>
Although I've often fantasized along these lines,  I actually don't think
this problem can be solved in the manner suggested by anonymous,
below.

This problem periodically causes us problems here, too.    I would like to
see more discussion  about  how to 'convince' either Human Resources,
the
International Office or  the IRS (or, wonders of wonders, all three).   I
think all  of us realize that 'University exchange is a vital and necessary
activity that should be maintained in addition to concerns about uniform
standards of personnel administration.'  That realization doesn't help us
with this problem.

I'd like to see this discussion back on line, if possible.

BW

Barbara W. McKinley, M. P. H., C. R. A.
Administrator, Division of Molecular Virology
Baylor College of Medicine
e-mail: xxxxxx@bcm.tmc.edu
voice mail: 713-798-3154
fax: 713-798-5075

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From: Research Administration Discussion Group
To: Multiple recipients of list RESADM-L
Subject: Visiting Scholars on J-1 Visas -Reply
Date: Friday, February 21, 1997 6:26PM

You have a problem with a human resources director that does not
recognize that University exchange of scholars is a vital and
necessary activity that should be maintained in addition to concerns
about uniform standards of personnel administration. Grab a Vice
President and fire point blank.
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 Has anyone else had the following problem, and if so how did you solve
> it?--
>
> A visiting scholar is invited to come to the institution to work on a
> research grant.  But your Affirmative Action Officer requires that the
> hiring process be conducted according to the normal routine whereby
a
> pool of applicants is selected from.  Only in this case you don't have
> a pool!  You seem to be stuck between IRS rules for treating people as
> "employees" and paying them wages (as