Wise advice, Shannon!

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Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 9:38:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Securing copies of funded proposals

Hi Christine,

We utilized FOIA effectively to get the successful proposals for a U19 submission. We actually got a lot of really good info and only one of the successful applicants redacted a bunch of info, but even after redactions their strategic aims and research strategies were very informative with regard to style, content, and technical info.

I will say, however, that it generated surprise and initial animosity from two of the institutions. One said we should have just asked for the documents. The other had their legal contact our legal, which caused a bit of a stir at our university, until everyone revisited the FOIA and realized that federally funded research is supposed to be open to the public. It was a good education process for all involved.

If we had to do it again, we’d ask the institutions first, then utilize FOIA if they were not cooperative. At the end of the day, I think it’s important for PIs and institutions to be reminded that federally funded research belongs to the public and needs to be treated as such, and should lend itself to a more transparent and collaborative environement.

Best,

Shannon Knudsen
Project Manager, CRA
The Pathogen and Microbiome Institute (PMI)
Northern Arizona University
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From: Research Administration List <xxxxxx@LISTS.HEALTHRESEARCH.ORG> On Behalf Of Audrey Foster
Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020 10:26 AM
To: xxxxxx@LISTS.HEALTHRESEARCH.ORG
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Securing copies of funded proposals

Christine, it's been my experience that it's rare that one of my faculty members has been able to get a copy of a proposal from a PI at another institution.  Perhaps the request should come from me as Michelle Gooding suggests.  We haven't requested very often...I can count on my 2 hands in 20 years the number of times we've requested from FOIA.  It's worth a try but not if you're in a hurry.  We have done FOIA requests that have taken months.  One particular request was fulfilled but so much of it was redacted that it was useless...pages and pages blacked out.     -- alwf

On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 12:52 PM Christine Gonzalez <xxxxxx@nsc.edu<mailto:xxxxxx@nsc.edu>> wrote:
Hello All,

Curious to hear how others have secured copies of funded proposals. Do folks go through federal agencies, following the Freedom of Information Act, or by directly contacting PIs of funded proposals? What are the pros and cons of each method? If contacting PIs directly, is that usually done by SPO or the interested investigator?

If anyone is curious, I was asked to seek copies of successfully funded NSF ADVANCE proposals. I am exploring effective ways to do this first. I wasn’t sure if I could openly ask the listserv for copies, so just wanted to find out more about the process. Feel free to contact me directly at xxxxxx@nsc.edu<mailto:xxxxxx@nsc.edu>.

Thank you all in advance. Please stay safe and well.

Christine

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