Same here, John. Good call! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone -----Original message----- From: Sharon Brown-Smith <xxxxxx@MTSU.EDU> To: "xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org" <xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org> Sent: Thu, May 31, 2012 02:09:41 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Compliance Office John, thumbs up. I love your response!!! Sharon Smith, MS, CRA ORS Office#: 615-898-5894 ________________________________________ From: Research Administration List [xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] on behalf of Baumann, John R [xxxxxx@IU.EDU] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:02 PM To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Compliance Office This is an interesting issue and I have to disagree with my colleague on this matter. The topic has come up a number of times on different listserves, including IRB forum. The issue usually comes up as – is it apppropriate for the compliance office(s) to report to vice president/provost/chancellor for research. The agruement is that this represents a conflict of interest as it is the purpose of this office to enhance research efforts and, further, the sponsored program office reports to this office as well. Well, I think that it is for a couple of reasons. If not the chief research officer, to whom should it report? What are the other choices? VP for Administration and Finance is frequently identified as an option. Or the President/Chancellor. I do not believe that these are more appropriate than the VPR. * Report to a finance office? Seems even more dangerous to report to an office whose bottom line is the bottom line and not academic/research integrity. This office is also frequently entirely unaware of the academic/research issues and expertise that must figure into any compliance operation. * Report to CEO or President? The responsibility of this office is so often externally focused and there is no way that the officials of this office can be sufficiently hands on. * Provost?Again, does the chief academic officer really have the time for this? Will this campus officer really be accessible? * Board of Directors/Trustees? They are mostly by definition mandated to be not be involved in such operational matters. And, they are certainly not available to anyone in the compliance office or to the research community. Who other than the chief research officer has the experience, expertise, or contacts necessary to understand and assess the issues in a compliance matter? It is a truism that research involves risk and the IRBs and IACUCs, for instance, are designed and mandated to assess risk/benefit. Who other than the chief research officer is so qualified by experience, expertise and contacts to do so? In my opinion, no one. As to the Enron example - I no longer remember all of the details and whether the Board of Directors was aware of the behavior of the top officials. But,the recent record has certainly shown that boards have not served as an effective safeguard or gatekeeper against improper behavior. It seems that they have been at best unaware (an old expression: how do you deal with the Board? Like you treat mushrooms, in the dark and covered in s#@t). The record is probably that they have been a passive, if not active, part of the mis-behavior. So, while I understand the concern regarding a compliance office reporting to the chief research officer, I see no practical, effective, or more ideal alternative. Just my 2 cents. John John R. Baumann, Ph.D. Executive Director, Human Research Protection Program Office of Research Administration Office of Vice President for Research Indiana University xxxxxx@iu.edu 812.856.7987 (IUB office) 317.278.7830 (IUPUI office) 816.695.7146 (cell) http://researchadmin.iu.edu/cs-humsub.html From: Gloria Greene <xxxxxx@UAH.EDU<mailto:xxxxxx@UAH.EDU>> Reply-To: Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org<mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org>> Date: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 4:17 PM To: "xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org<mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org>" <xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org<mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org>> Subject: [RESADM-L] Compliance Office The compliance functions and areas of responsibilities are growing faster than resources needed to perform them. I believe this function should be separate and distinct. I am looking for anything that will help make the case why a separate stand-along Office of Compliance is required. Any comments, links to documents, etc., that you are willing to share will be very helpful. Please reply to me directly, my email address is noted below. Thank you all. Gloria Greene, MA, CRA Director UAHuntsville, Office of Sponsored Programs SRA-Alabama Chapter, Vice President-Elect 301 Sparkman Drive, VBRH E26 Huntsville, AL 35899 Voice: (256) 824-2657 Fax: (256) 824-6677 Email:xxxxxx@uah.edu<mailto:xxxxxx@uah.edu> "The person who knows 'how' will always have a job. The person who knows 'why' will always be his boss." -- Diane Ravitch Please do not print this email unless necessary. Take Charge,Go GREEN! 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