Kris,
I would find it very hard for a sub institution to accept a cap on the IDC rate if the prime was not subject to it too. I think you would only be able to enforce no recovery if your own institution had forfeited IDC on the prime award.
Magui

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Kris Wolff
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 4:37 PM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] mini-grants for trainees on NIH grant

That actually is the cap on this grant - it is a training grant.  It isn't
going to be that much money so maybe I will try to convince the PI that she
should just allow the institutions to recoup that small amount.  It will be
the easiest way to do it.

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Kris Wolff
Manager, Office of Sponsored Programs
718-817-4086 

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[mailto:xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org] On Behalf Of Forster, Marjorie
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 3:20 PM
To: xxxxxx@lists.healthresearch.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] mini-grants for trainees on NIH grant

You keep mentioning trainees and I am assuming that the award is focused on
providing a training opportunity to the trainees. Is it possible for you to
consider using the NIH F&A training award rate of 8%?  Marjorie
On Aug 4, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Kris Wolff wrote:

Our ethics center is running a training institute funded by the NIH which
includes mini "grants" to the trainees to do research projects at their own
institutions.  The center wants to avoid paying indirect costs on the mini
grants as it's such a small amount of money already, so they're reluctant to
enter into subcontracts with the trainees' institutions.  At the same time,
they feel that keeping all the money here at Fordham might not be the best
choice because that could end up being an administrative nightmare.  And
they don't want to give the money to the trainees directly because of the
taxes that would have to be paid by the trainees.

They had their program officer come to a recent lecture and his suggestion
was awarding the money to the institutions, but insisting that they could
not recoup any indirect costs on it.  I'm afraid that there could be some
institutions that will not agree to this, thus causing their trainee to lose
out on the mini grant opportunity.

Has anyone come up against a situation like this, and what did you do?

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Kris Wolff, MA, CRA
Manager
Office of Sponsored Programs
Rose Hill campus, ADN 221
ph:  718-817-4086
fax: 718-817-5575
http://www.fordham.edu/osp

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