Re: Research Adminstrator Positions Costing Guidelines Russo, Fredric 25 Mar 2010 08:08 EST

Angela,

That's how I read your email as well.

Now, if only we could be paid on a "per-proposal" basis, my salary would have nearly doubled in the last few years.  :)

Ted

Ted Russo, M.P.A., C.R.A.
Associate Director, Pre-Award Services
Office of Sponsored Programs
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
100 Institute Road
Worcester, MA. 01609-2280
Tel: 508-831-5586  Fax: 508-831-5789
email:   xxxxxx@wpi.edu
URL:  http://www.wpi.edu/Admin/OSP/

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Angela Sgroi
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 8:48 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Research Adminstrator Positions Costing Guidelines

I really JUST wondered if anyone had any guidelines.  I'm looking for markers of some sort for my own reasons.  No one is threatening research administration at my place, but I do appreciate the overwhelming protectiveness some of you conveyed.  I apologize if my question implied anything beyond that.

Angela

Gray, Madison wrote:
> Angela:
>
> Perhaps back in the day when the research administrator closed the
> deal upon delivery of a case of Glenmorangie 10 Year to the sponsor?
> (The development folks still have expense budgets to influence
> donors.)
>
> A sponsor of a research project is not analogous to a donor; a
> research administrator is not analogous to a development professional.
>
> The technical merit of a research proposal is what a sponsor considers
> during the award stage.  The PI is completely responsible for the
> technical merit of a proposal - not the research administrator.
>
> Your question goes to how to characterize a successful research
> administrator.  There is a lot of material available speaking to that
> issue.  That said, I do not recall ever seeing the concept you
> outlined in the dialogue.
>
> Although I am intrigued by the fleeting thought that I should perhaps
> be pocketing a % bonus based on monies brought into the institution ...
>
> With kind regards, Madison
>
> Madison Gray, J.D., C.R.A.
> Assistant Director, Contract Management Division of Sponsored Research
> Vanderbilt University
>
> email: xxxxxx@vanderbilt.edu
> phone: 615-343-1374
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf Of Angela Sgroi
> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:05 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: [RESADM-L] Research Adminstrator Positions Costing Guidelines
>
> My Development colleagues tell me that the rough rule-of-thumb for
> every
>
> Development position hired is that in the first year, the person is
> expected to bring in double their salary in funding, and by the third
> year, they are expected to bring in at least 5 times their salary in
> funding.  Are there any comparable rules-of-thumb for pre-award
> research
>
> administrators that any of you know of?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Angela Sgroi
>
>
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