Your colleagues' comment might apply (although I doubt it) to the usual sort of one-on-one development work. Even so, the numbers they give seem entirely arbitrary. But with pre-award work aimed at foundations and government agencies, their comments are sheer nonsense. The important things to consider here are: the science, coherence and organization of the proposal, the appropriateness of the proposed work and its relation to the budget, the qualifications of the PI, the "fit" between the proposed project and the request for proposals, ETC, ETC....I don't think pre-award work in the normal sense is really development work. It's in a different category - much more content driven and much more dependent on the organized work and experience of others. Joel Fritzler wrote: > > I agree, and make that “silly” thinking as per the proper Queen’s > English definition. > > Joel Fritzler > > Research Development & Information Specialist > > Office of Research Development and Administration > > Woody Hall C-215, SIUC Mailcode 4709 > > Southern Illinois University > > Carbondale, IL 62901 > > 618-453-4530 > > xxxxxx@siu.edu <mailto:xxxxxx@siu.edu> > > ü */Before you print this email or attachments, please consider the > environment/*/.// / > > *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On > Behalf Of *Matthew Katz > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 3:42 PM > *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org > *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] Research Administrator Positions Costing > Guidelines > > Unless you’re involved in the direct delivery of research, how do they > expect you to solicit funding? That’s just silly thinking. Remind the > boss you’re not in fundraising. > > Matthew D. Katz, MHA > > Assistant Vice President, > > Sponsored Research and Contract Management > > Western University of Health Sciences > > 309 E. 2nd Street > > Pomona, CA 91766 > > xxxxxx@westernu.edu > > (909) 469-5567 > > (909) 469-5569 FAX > > *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On > Behalf Of *McCallister, Mike > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 24, 2010 1:15 PM > *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org > *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] Research Administrator Positions Costing > Guidelines > > I’d work this advice into the soil around my tomato plants if I were > you, then go to your supervisor and ask for, in writing, what they > expect of you. > > Spanky > > > On 3/24/10 4:04 PM, "Angela Sgroi" <xxxxxx@TCNJ.EDU> wrote: > > My Development colleagues tell me that the rough rule-of-thumb for every > Development position hired is that in the first year, the person is > expected to bring in double their salary in funding, and by the third > year, they are expected to bring in at least 5 times their salary in > funding. Are there any comparable rules-of-thumb for pre-award research > administrators that any of you know of? > > Thank you. > > Angela Sgroi > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > > Michael McCallister, Ph.D. > Assistant Director, Research Ethics, Education > and Policy > Office of Research Administration > Indiana University > xxxxxx@indiana.edu > xxxxxx@iupui.edu > 812-855-1915 > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > -- John McCann, Ph.D. Assistant Dean for Faculty Development and Sponsored Programs Provost's Office Southwestern University P.O. 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