Just catching up.  I believe NIH only accepts (under normal circumstances)
an application that passes Grants.gov Validation; that is, you get a
positive second message.  Not just the first message that says it only got
to Grants.gov.

One big difference between the problems this time compared to last
Feb/March is that while there were delays, there were not all of the false
errors we had before.  At Michigan we submitted dozens of application, not
up to a 100 this time but not one had a Grants.gov validation error.  Are
they not checking as closely as in the past, or were we just better a
preparing the applications.  About 3/4 were S2S, rest forms.  There were
some NIH validation errors, however, but now we have 5 days to fix :)

Is it really the function of G.g to validate applications, anyway?  The
Post Office does not do validations.  Why not let the agencies just do
whatever validations they want?  Comments?

With this Boost between now and the March deadlines, we should do well in
the future!

Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

Bob
Robert Beattie
University of Michigan

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 15:01:22 -0800, "Donahue, Sherie (LLU)"
<xxxxxx@LLU.EDU> wrote:
> That has always been the case in the past....as long as you submitted on
> time, NIH will accept it. In one of the first round or two after the
> R01s went electronic, I remember it taking 2-3 days for the proposal to
> get from Grants.gov to NIH.
>
> If you have a submission receipt for all of your proposals, go on
> home....any corrections can be done next week!
>
> Sherie Donahue, MS
> Electronic Research Specialist
> Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs
> Loma Linda University
> Loma Linda, CA 92350
> (909)651-5098 or (909)558-1000, x83911
> 909/558-0244 (fax)
>
> The difficult we do immediately. The impossible takes a little longer.
> -- motto of the US Army Corps of Engineers during WWII
> Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. --
> Albert Einstein
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf Of Dave Harris
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:54 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov Submission Problems Today
>
> So, if we got our first email from Grants.gov (Submission Receipt),
> should
> we be able to breathe a little easier?  It has not shown up in Commons
> yet.
>
>
> Dave B. Harris, Assistant Director
> ISU Office of Sponsored Programs
> Stop 8046, ISU
> Pocatello, Idaho 83209-8046
> (208)282-2592
> http://www.isu.edu     mailto:xxxxxx@isu.edu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf
> Of Donahue, Sherie (LLU)
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 2:36 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov Submission Problems Today
>
> I love it!
>
> Sherie Donahue, MS
> Electronic Research Specialist
> Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs
> Loma Linda University
> Loma Linda, CA 92350
> (909)651-5098 or (909)558-1000, x83911
> 909/558-0244 (fax)
>
> The difficult we do immediately. The impossible takes a little longer.
> -- motto of the US Army Corps of Engineers during WWII
> Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler. --
> Albert Einstein
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway
> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:09 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Grants.gov Submission Problems Today
>
> I keep picturing all these researchers playing
> some grant game in this big xml pie and all.
> Thousands of them, and nobody's around - nobody
> in charge, I mean - except me. And I'm standing
> on the edge of some crazy 5 PM deadline cliff.
> What I have to do, I have to push everybody over
> the cliff - I mean if they're running and they
> don't look at the time I have to come out from
> somewhere and push them. That's all I'm doing all
> day. I'd just be the pusher in the pie and all. I
> know it's crazy, and THERE ARE A LOT OF OTHER
> THINGS I'd really RATHER be DOING. I know it's crazy.
>
> [apologies]
>
>
>
> At 03:19 PM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
>>Is anyone else having troubles submitting this
>>afternoon?  Two people in our office are have
>>had no success submitting.  Sometimes the "sign
>>and submit" screen doesn't appear after logging
>>in.  The times when it does appear, the small
>>screen which usually shows files transferring
>>indicates no file transfers, then an
>>Error:Nothing Done screen appears.  Grants.gov
>>Help Desk says it's due to high volume and to
>>keep trying.  I'm surprised not to see any other
>>emails on this.  Does anyone have any ideas other than keep trying?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ann Shiras
>>Proposal Review
>>UW-Milwaukee
>>414-229-3077
>>
>>
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