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Re: ARRA question-PI's who transfer Tom Drinane 18 Aug 2009 11:37 EST

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 Re: [RESADM-L] ARRA award transfer between institutions not allowed?

From: Jean C. Linder <xxxxxx@UCSD.EDU>
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Reply-To: Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org>
Date: Jul 27 2009 - 6:12pm
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NIH has updated their ARRA FAQs to explain the problems with trying to
transfer an ARRA award to a new institution, after it has first been
awarded:

http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/faqs_recovery.html#If7

Can an ARRA-funded grant be transferred to a new institution if
the PI moves? (New: 06/24/2009)
NIH Policy supports such a transfer; however, because of the
requirement by the HHS Payment Management System to have a unique
Document Number schema for ARRA awards, NIH is not able to use
established business processes to accommodate such a transfer. While we
can transfer an application before an ARRA award is issued, options
currently available to transfer awarded ARRA grants are quite limited.
PD/PIs should be forthcoming in advising NIH IC staff of the possibility
of upcoming transfers when contacted about possible funding of an
application with ARRA dollars so that options can be discussed before an
ARRA award is issued. NIH is developing a new business process to
accommodate these transfers; however, at this time we do not know how
long a solution might take to implement.

At 04:16 PM 6/22/2009, you wrote:
I've pasted the response from
the NIH ARRA office below. It appears that ARRA grants can be
issued to a new institution if arrangements are made with NIH prior to
the award being issued. It is still a little unclear about whether
or not a grant can be transferred once it has been issued.
-Jean
From: OER-ARRA <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov>
To: "'Jean C. Linder'" <xxxxxx@ucsd.edu>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:26:33 -0400
Subject: RE: Policy on change of institution proposals for ARRA
funds

The answer to your question is in the timing of the move. ARRA
awards can be made to investigators who have moved since making
application, as long as the application is transferred amicably between
to two institutions. However, once the AWARD is made there is not a
mechanism in place to transfer the award.
Our recommendation (if the grantee doesn't wish to name a new PI) is that
the Institute negotiate with the PI to cancel the award, ask the new
institution to send in a transfer application, and then make the award to
the new institution.
For information on NIH's other ARRA programs, please visit:

http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/
There are MANY FAQ's and Answers posted at:

http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/faqs_recovery.html?Submit=Frequently+Asked+Questions

We hope this information is helpful to you.
Sincerely,
NIH Office of Extramural Research

At 12:34 PM 6/18/2009, you wrote:

We have a situation where the
Principal Investigator submitted a proposal when he was employed at an
institution in Texas but he then transferred to Indiana University and
NIH made the award to Indiana. This was a new ARRA funded R21 from
the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

Hope this helps.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Pamela M. McKeough, CRA
Office of Research Administration
Indiana University
Phone: (317)
274-5521
E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu

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mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org ] On Behalf Of Jean C. Linder
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:09 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] ARRA award transfer between institutions not
allowed?

Dear Colleagues- UCSD recently received an email from an NIH/NINDS
Grants Management Specialist that said:

"Unfortunately, ARRA awards cannot be transferred between
institutions. We are advising grantees to look at establishing
subcontracts as a way to let the PI stay on the grants. It will be
possible for you to be named PI for the subcontract while remaining
the PI at the primary institution. You will need to work with your
current institution as they will retain responsibility for the ARRA
reporting requirements."

I could not find any mention of this policy in NIH's ARRA Terms and
Conditions, web site, recent slide shows, or in their notice
NOT-OD-09-080 about how ARRA funding would be handled
(

http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-09-080.html ).

In fact, another NIH institute has seemed quite willing to allow a
change-of-institution for a grant with ARRA funding.

Have any of you heard anything like this? I'd appreciate links to

any official policy. Thanks a lot. -Jean

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Jean C. Linder
Contract & Grant Officer
Univ. of California, San Diego
Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin.
voice: (858) 534-0244
9500 Gilman Drive,
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fax: (858) 534-0280
La Jolla, CA
92093-0934 e-mail:
xxxxxx@ucsd.edu

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Jean C. Linder
Contract & Grant Officer
Univ. of California, San Diego
Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin.
voice: (858) 534-0244
9500 Gilman Drive,
0934
fax: (858) 534-0280
La Jolla, CA
92093-0934 e-mail:
xxxxxx@ucsd.edu

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La Jolla, CA 92037

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Donahue, Sherie (LLU) wrote:
>
> At the NIH regional seminar in June, NIH verbally stated that due to
> the unique reporting requirements, they would be unable to transfer an
> ARRA award to another institution if any funds had already been
> expended. If the project has NOT been started, it can be transferred
> and I would suggest that you contact NIH as quickly as possible.
>
>
>
> Finally, even though it did not specifically address this issue, I
> tried to attach PowerPoint from that NIH presentation for your
> convenience, but the post was rejected. If you are interested in that
> PowerPoint, please email me and I will send it to you.
>
>
>
> Sherie
>
>
>
>
>
> Sherie Donahue, MS
> Electronic Research Specialist
> Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs
> Loma Linda University
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> *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:20 AM
> *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> *Subject:* [RESADM-L] ARRA question-PI's who transfer
>
>
>
> Has anyone had any experience yet where a PI received an NIH ARRA
> award, and has transferred or is transferring to another institution?
> How have you and the agency handled it?
>
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Bob
>
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>
> Robert P. Bloomberg
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