This thread regarding this topic was posted to this list in July: Re: [RESADM-L] ARRA award transfer between institutions not allowed? From: Jean C. Linder <xxxxxx@UCSD.EDU> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Reply-To: Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> Date: Jul 27 2009 - 6:12pm Viewed On: - - NIH has updated their ARRA FAQs to explain the problems with trying to transfer an ARRA award to a new institution, after it has first been awarded: http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/faqs_recovery.html#If7 Can an ARRA-funded grant be transferred to a new institution if the PI moves? (New: 06/24/2009) NIH Policy supports such a transfer; however, because of the requirement by the HHS Payment Management System to have a unique Document Number schema for ARRA awards, NIH is not able to use established business processes to accommodate such a transfer. While we can transfer an application before an ARRA award is issued, options currently available to transfer awarded ARRA grants are quite limited. PD/PIs should be forthcoming in advising NIH IC staff of the possibility of upcoming transfers when contacted about possible funding of an application with ARRA dollars so that options can be discussed before an ARRA award is issued. NIH is developing a new business process to accommodate these transfers; however, at this time we do not know how long a solution might take to implement. At 04:16 PM 6/22/2009, you wrote: I've pasted the response from the NIH ARRA office below. It appears that ARRA grants can be issued to a new institution if arrangements are made with NIH prior to the award being issued. It is still a little unclear about whether or not a grant can be transferred once it has been issued. -Jean From: OER-ARRA <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov> To: "'Jean C. Linder'" <xxxxxx@ucsd.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:26:33 -0400 Subject: RE: Policy on change of institution proposals for ARRA funds The answer to your question is in the timing of the move. ARRA awards can be made to investigators who have moved since making application, as long as the application is transferred amicably between to two institutions. However, once the AWARD is made there is not a mechanism in place to transfer the award. Our recommendation (if the grantee doesn't wish to name a new PI) is that the Institute negotiate with the PI to cancel the award, ask the new institution to send in a transfer application, and then make the award to the new institution. For information on NIH's other ARRA programs, please visit: http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/ There are MANY FAQ's and Answers posted at: http://grants.nih.gov/recovery/faqs_recovery.html?Submit=Frequently+Asked+Questions We hope this information is helpful to you. Sincerely, NIH Office of Extramural Research At 12:34 PM 6/18/2009, you wrote: We have a situation where the Principal Investigator submitted a proposal when he was employed at an institution in Texas but he then transferred to Indiana University and NIH made the award to Indiana. This was a new ARRA funded R21 from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. Hope this helps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pamela M. McKeough, CRA Office of Research Administration Indiana University Phone: (317) 274-5521 E-mail: xxxxxx@iupui.edu -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [ mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org ] On Behalf Of Jean C. Linder Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 3:09 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] ARRA award transfer between institutions not allowed? Dear Colleagues- UCSD recently received an email from an NIH/NINDS Grants Management Specialist that said: "Unfortunately, ARRA awards cannot be transferred between institutions. We are advising grantees to look at establishing subcontracts as a way to let the PI stay on the grants. It will be possible for you to be named PI for the subcontract while remaining the PI at the primary institution. You will need to work with your current institution as they will retain responsibility for the ARRA reporting requirements." I could not find any mention of this policy in NIH's ARRA Terms and Conditions, web site, recent slide shows, or in their notice NOT-OD-09-080 about how ARRA funding would be handled ( http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-09-080.html ). In fact, another NIH institute has seemed quite willing to allow a change-of-institution for a grant with ARRA funding. Have any of you heard anything like this? I'd appreciate links to any official policy. Thanks a lot. -Jean ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jean C. Linder Contract & Grant Officer Univ. of California, San Diego Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin. voice: (858) 534-0244 9500 Gilman Drive, 0934 fax: (858) 534-0280 La Jolla, CA 92093-0934 e-mail: xxxxxx@ucsd.edu OVERNIGHT MAIL DELIVERY ADDRESS: 10300 North Torrey Pines Road, Second Floor La Jolla, CA 92037 OCGA Web Site: http://ocga.ucsd.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jean C. Linder Contract & Grant Officer Univ. of California, San Diego Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin. voice: (858) 534-0244 9500 Gilman Drive, 0934 fax: (858) 534-0280 La Jolla, CA 92093-0934 e-mail: xxxxxx@ucsd.edu OVERNIGHT MAIL DELIVERY ADDRESS: 10300 North Torrey Pines Road, Second Floor La Jolla, CA 92037 OCGA Web Site: http://ocga.ucsd.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jean C. Linder Contract & Grant Officer Univ. of California, San Diego Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin. voice: (858) 534-0244 9500 Gilman Drive, 0934 fax: (858) 534-0280 La Jolla, CA 92093-0934 e-mail: xxxxxx@ucsd.edu OVERNIGHT MAIL DELIVERY ADDRESS: 10300 North Torrey Pines Road, Second Floor La Jolla, CA 92037 OCGA Web Site: http://ocga.ucsd.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Donahue, Sherie (LLU) wrote: > > At the NIH regional seminar in June, NIH verbally stated that due to > the unique reporting requirements, they would be unable to transfer an > ARRA award to another institution if any funds had already been > expended. If the project has NOT been started, it can be transferred > and I would suggest that you contact NIH as quickly as possible. > > > > Finally, even though it did not specifically address this issue, I > tried to attach PowerPoint from that NIH presentation for your > convenience, but the post was rejected. If you are interested in that > PowerPoint, please email me and I will send it to you. > > > > Sherie > > > > > > Sherie Donahue, MS > Electronic Research Specialist > Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs > Loma Linda University > Loma Linda, CA 92350 > (909)651-5098 or (909)558-1000, x83911 > 909/558-0244 (fax) > > //The difficult we do immediately. The impossible takes a little > longer.// -- motto of the US Army Corps of Engineers during WWII > //Imagination is more important than knowledge.// -- Albert Einstein > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On > Behalf Of *Bloomberg, Robert > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:20 AM > *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org > *Subject:* [RESADM-L] ARRA question-PI's who transfer > > > > Has anyone had any experience yet where a PI received an NIH ARRA > award, and has transferred or is transferring to another institution? > How have you and the agency handled it? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Bob > > > > Robert P. 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