I agree it's sloppy, but when up against a deadline it gets the proposal in on time. You can then deal with the consequences by taking the risk of rejection and resubmission. I have had this come up on a proposal with 13 key personnel an hour before deadline. -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Janis Swanton Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:54 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] How to get rid of the required yellow fields for NIH application/ Senior/Key Person page We had the same problem. Our PI filled his information in this section by mistake (this was his first Grants.gov application) and when we tried to delete it -- all the fields became required. I offered the two solutions -- starting over or filling in n/a in all the fields and uploading a "blank" biosketch. He didn't want to submit his proposal with the n/a fields (which I agreed with), so we started over. Thank goodness he had listened to us and started his proposal early. I felt terrible having to tell him we couldn't correct what was really a very simple mistake. Bob Beattie wrote: > Janet's suggestion is a possible "kludge" for the Grants.gov giant bug > in the system, but when I have suggested this, the Research staff have > said that the PI did not want such a sloppy looking form. If anyone > does this, the attached "biosketch" page should explain what is being > done, or the agency might think you forgot something. I have suggested > that you just state the problem and what you did. > > Still, isn't it pretty sad that we have to do all this or a new form > to make up for an error that General Dynamics IT should just fix. > > I strongly urge everyone who uses Grants.gov to submit a An Applicant > Enhancement Form. > get it here > http://www07.grants.gov/agencies/applicant_user_feedback.jsp > > Use some text like below for Item 1 > " This is a request that you fix a SERIOUS ERROR in the Key Person > form. Allow for the removal of Key Persons, including just one such > person. Or allow for the removal of an accidental picking of Role on > Project. There should be an option for an empty field for this > element. Otherwise, once a role is picked it cannot be removed. Then, > the entire form must be redone." > > Item 2: "Fixing this serious error by GDIT will keep users from > redoing a whole form." Same for Item 3. > > If a couple hundred users send in such forms, I would like to know how > they can avoid fixing. Thanks > > Bob > ------------------------------ > Robert Beattie > UMich e-Business Point of Contact > UMich Grants.gov Liaison > Managing Senior Project Representative for Electronic Research > Administration > Division of Research Development and Administration > University of Michigan > xxxxxx@umich.edu (734) 936-1283 > > On Jul 22, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Janet Bowne wrote: > > I have had this happen on a couple of proposals and rather than start > all over, I entered N/A in all the yellow fields, added "other" for > the project role w/ N/A in the next box that comes up as mandatory, > and attached a blank pdf for the biosketch. > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf Of Tsai, Martina > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 5:26 PM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: [RESADM-L] How to get rid of the required yellow fields for > NIH application/ Senior/Key Person page > > Dear all, > > Do you know how to get rid of the following yellow fields? There is no > reset button, and I checked all the fields, and click on delete and > also backspace in each fields. However, I was not able to clear out > the yellow fields. The file was like this, as shown below, when I get > it from the PI. Any suggestions before I start a new package? Any tips > you may provide would be greatly appreciated. > > <image001.jpg> > Thank you. > Martina > > Martina Tsai, CRA > Sponsored Projects Services (SPS) > University at Buffalo > 402 Crofts Hall > Buffalo, New York 14260-7016 > xxxxxx@buffalo.edu (Best way to reach me) > www.research.buffalo.edu/sps > Phone: 716.645.4421 (NEW) > Fax: 716.645.2760 > > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== -- Janis Swanton Grants & Contracts Development Specialist Research & Sponsored Programs Illinois State University Campus Box 3040 Normal, IL 61790-3040 309/438-8296 309/438-7912 (fax) ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
