Yes Thanks everyone who responded, especially Charlie for calling me!! Matthew D. Katz, MHA Assistant Vice President, Sponsored Research and Contract Management Western University of Health Sciences 309 E. 2nd Street Pomona, CA 91766 (909) 469-5567 (909) 469-5569 FAX -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Good, Deborah Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:08 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION Thanks, All! And thanks to the gentleman who called from TX with helpful advice. Saved us from getting a rejected application! -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of angela williams Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:48 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION Here is the answer our office received from NIH: From: Constructionncrr (NIH/NCRR) [mailto:xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 6:02 AM Subject: RE: Which pages are counted in the C06 Application The 20 page limit includes all of the text in the application. The page count starts at the Specific Aims section and runs through the Project Timeline. Greg Farber, Ph.D. Deputy Director, Office of Extramural Activities National Center for Research Resources 301-435-0778 Ang. Angela D. Williams, MBA, JD Center Research Administrator Texas Learning and Computation Center University of Houston 218 P.G. Hoffman Hall Houston, TX 77204-3058 713-743-4129 Fax: 713-743-1250 xxxxxx@tlc2.uh.edu -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of bonnie kwit Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:34 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION Charlie, This is the error/warning message I received on my May 6th submission. Note is says limited to 40 pages. Bonnie Status Information eSubmission Errors/Warning In most cases, a Bibliography and References Cited attachment should be included. - Warning The Program Narrative (Other Project Information, Project Narrative attachment) is limited to 40 pages. - Warning -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:54 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION I disagree. Please see email below. AND..please tell me if you already submitted a 40 pager for an earlier deadline. ?? Charlie From: "McCullough, Willie (NIH/NCRR) [E]" <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov> To: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@aecom.yu.edu>, "Nelson, Barbara (NIH/NCRR) [E]" <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:22:30 -0400 Subject: RE: C06 page limits Dr. Hathaway, The 20 page Project Narrative includes the line-up-on-line narrative of the following less the tables and line drawings: Specific Aims: Background: Improvement Plans: Significance and Need: (grant tables do not count against the 20 pages) Project Management and Institutional Commitment: Design Considerations: Engineering Criteria: Architectural Criteria: Line Drawings: (do not counted against the 20 pages) Equipment: Project Timeline: The grant support tables and line drawings may exceed the 40 page limit that will trigger a warning that the PDF file is more than the 40 page limit. A warning is OK so you may add more than 20 pages of tables and line drawings. Regards, Willie At 01:40 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote: >We have interpreted the Project Narrative to consist of all the >sections, with page requirements for Specific Aims, Background and >Improvement to be no more than 20 pp. But together with the remaining >sections (Significance and Need, Project Management and Institutional >Commitment, Design Considerations, Equipment and Project Timelines) the >total cannot exceed 40 pp (with line drawings and tables exempt from >limit). > >I confirmed with NIH regarding the Equipment and this is the response: >For #10 Equipment, we assume that since this is included as part of the >Project Narrative, the inclusion of it here as a separate attachment is >not necessary? Yes, you are correct. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On >Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway >Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:49 PM >To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION > >It was written (or indented) very poorly. > >Yes...all those sections are part of the 20 pages. Only line drawings >and REQUIRED tables, which will be within these sections, are not >counted against the 20 pp total. > >At 12:35 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote: > >Ok, we're putting together our C06 application and I have an > >important formatting question: > >In the "instructions", under Project Narrative, it states that the > >Specific Aims, Background and Improvement Plans cannot exceed 20 pages. > >However following that there are sections for Significance and Need, > >Project Management and Institutional Commitment, Design > >Considerations, Equipment and Project Timelines. Are THESE sections > >also part of the PROJECT NARRATIVE? And if so, then that would exceed > >20 pages? Or should they be loaded under Facilities and Other > >Resources and Equipment sections of Research and Related Other > >Project Information Form?? > > > >THANKS!!! > > > >Matthew D. Katz, MHA > >Assistant Vice President, > >Sponsored Research and Contract Management Western University of > >Health Sciences > >309 E. 2nd Street > >Pomona, CA 91766 > >(909) 469-5567 > >(909) 469-5569 FAX > > > > > > > >===================================================================== > >= Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv > >Lists") > >===================================================================== > >= > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
