Charlie, This is the error/warning message I received on my May 6th submission. Note is says limited to 40 pages. Bonnie Status Information eSubmission Errors/Warning In most cases, a Bibliography and References Cited attachment should be included. - Warning The Program Narrative (Other Project Information, Project Narrative attachment) is limited to 40 pages. - Warning -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:54 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION I disagree. Please see email below. AND..please tell me if you already submitted a 40 pager for an earlier deadline. ?? Charlie From: "McCullough, Willie (NIH/NCRR) [E]" <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov> To: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@aecom.yu.edu>, "Nelson, Barbara (NIH/NCRR) [E]" <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov> Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:22:30 -0400 Subject: RE: C06 page limits Dr. Hathaway, The 20 page Project Narrative includes the line-up-on-line narrative of the following less the tables and line drawings: Specific Aims: Background: Improvement Plans: Significance and Need: (grant tables do not count against the 20 pages) Project Management and Institutional Commitment: Design Considerations: Engineering Criteria: Architectural Criteria: Line Drawings: (do not counted against the 20 pages) Equipment: Project Timeline: The grant support tables and line drawings may exceed the 40 page limit that will trigger a warning that the PDF file is more than the 40 page limit. A warning is OK so you may add more than 20 pages of tables and line drawings. Regards, Willie At 01:40 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote: >We have interpreted the Project Narrative to consist of all the >sections, with page requirements for Specific Aims, Background and >Improvement to be no more than 20 pp. But together with the >remaining sections (Significance and Need, Project Management and >Institutional Commitment, Design Considerations, Equipment and >Project Timelines) the total cannot exceed 40 pp (with line drawings >and tables exempt from limit). > >I confirmed with NIH regarding the Equipment and this is the response: >For #10 Equipment, we assume that since this is included as part of >the Project Narrative, the inclusion of it here as a separate >attachment is not necessary? Yes, you are correct. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On >Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway >Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:49 PM >To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org >Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION > >It was written (or indented) very poorly. > >Yes...all those sections are part of the 20 pages. Only line >drawings and REQUIRED tables, which will be within these sections, >are not counted against the 20 pp total. > >At 12:35 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote: > >Ok, we're putting together our C06 application and I have an important > >formatting question: > >In the "instructions", under Project Narrative, it states that the > >Specific Aims, Background and Improvement Plans cannot exceed 20 pages. > >However following that there are sections for Significance and Need, > >Project Management and Institutional Commitment, Design Considerations, > >Equipment and Project Timelines. Are THESE sections also part of the > >PROJECT NARRATIVE? And if so, then that would exceed 20 pages? Or > >should they be loaded under Facilities and Other Resources and > >Equipment sections of Research and Related Other Project Information > >Form?? > > > >THANKS!!! > > > >Matthew D. 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