Thanks, we'll reconfirm again, but that was the response from the Grants Mgmt person.

Deborah Good
Associate Director
Sponsored Programs Administration
Harvard Medical School
Boston, MA 02115

(617) 432-2911

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway
Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:54 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION

I disagree.  Please see email below.

AND..please tell me if you already submitted a 40 pager for an earlier deadline.  ??

Charlie

From: "McCullough, Willie (NIH/NCRR) [E]" <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov>
To: Charlie Hathaway <xxxxxx@aecom.yu.edu>, "Nelson, Barbara (NIH/NCRR) [E]"
 <xxxxxx@mail.nih.gov>
Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 18:22:30 -0400
Subject: RE: C06 page limits

Dr. Hathaway,

The 20 page Project Narrative includes the line-up-on-line narrative of the following less the tables and line drawings:

Specific Aims:
Background:
Improvement Plans:
Significance and Need: (grant tables do not count against the 20 pages) Project Management and Institutional Commitment:
Design Considerations:
 Engineering Criteria:
 Architectural Criteria:
Line Drawings: (do not counted against the 20 pages)
Equipment:
Project Timeline:

The grant support tables and line drawings may exceed the 40 page limit that will trigger a warning that the PDF file is more than the 40 page limit.  A warning is OK so you may add more than 20 pages of tables and line drawings.

Regards,

Willie

At 01:40 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote:
>We have interpreted the Project Narrative to consist of all the
>sections, with page requirements for Specific Aims, Background and
>Improvement to be no more than 20 pp.  But together with the remaining
>sections (Significance and Need, Project Management and Institutional
>Commitment, Design Considerations, Equipment and Project Timelines) the
>total cannot exceed 40 pp (with line drawings and tables exempt from
>limit).
>
>I confirmed with NIH regarding the Equipment and this is the response:
>For #10 Equipment, we assume that since this is included as part of the
>Project Narrative, the inclusion of it here as a separate attachment is
>not necessary?  Yes, you are correct.
>
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
>Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway
>Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:49 PM
>To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
>Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] HELP! C06 QUESTION
>
>It was written (or indented) very poorly.
>
>Yes...all those sections are part of the 20 pages.  Only line drawings
>and REQUIRED tables, which will be within these sections, are not
>counted against the 20 pp total.
>
>At 12:35 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote:
> >Ok, we're putting together our C06 application and I have an
> >important formatting question:
> >In the "instructions", under Project Narrative, it states that the
> >Specific Aims, Background and Improvement Plans cannot exceed 20 pages.
> >However following that there are sections for Significance and Need,
> >Project Management and Institutional Commitment, Design
> >Considerations, Equipment and Project Timelines.  Are THESE sections
> >also part of the PROJECT NARRATIVE? And if so, then that would exceed
> >20 pages?  Or should they be loaded under Facilities and Other
> >Resources and Equipment sections of Research and Related Other
> >Project Information Form??
> >
> >THANKS!!!
> >
> >Matthew D. Katz, MHA
> >Assistant Vice President,
> >Sponsored Research and Contract Management Western University of
> >Health Sciences
> >309 E. 2nd Street
> >Pomona, CA  91766
> >(909) 469-5567
> >(909) 469-5569 FAX
> >
> >
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