Exactly...although it doesn't reach original goal of deleting the "person", the ultimate goal of submission is reached - and without having to re-create entire thing with the pressure of a looming deadline. Still unsure of how/if G.g will take this type of submission... And I have no desire to call the help desk to check. So I don't suggest trying it unless you've got time before the deadline to create a whole new application. Terri -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beattie Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:30 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person BUG After you fill in all the required fields with NA, you still cannot delete the entry but you can submit the application. Bob ------------------------------ Robert Beattie On Jun 5, 2009, at 12:35 PM, Terri Hall wrote: Is this an option? enter N/A in the required fields of profile to delete. That should pass the Check and save you from re-entering everything. Haven't tried it... -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beattie Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:58 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person BUG This is a terrible flaw in the system that has been knowN to Grants.gov for at least 6 months but they refuse to fix it. I do not believe that Paula's suggestion will work in this case. There at two options. 1. Start over 2. fill in NA's in all the yellow fields or use xxxxxx@xxx.edu for the email, and attach a biosketch that says "there is no additional person but the system is flawed and will not allow me to delete this entry." Sloppy but quick. I suspect most PI's will not want to do this. Maybe if all 2000 some members of this listserv would send an "enhancemenet" form, G.g will get the message that this needs fixing. Hardly a real enhancement more of a fix the bug situation. This is a Word document that you can fill in. http://www.grants.gov/assets/CustomerEnhancementForm.doc I sent the following text to the previous Director of Grants.gov and he said he would fix it, about a month before he was removed. "The problem occurs on the Research and Related Senior Key Personnel page. There is a field, a pull down list, "Project Role" that cannot be emptied once it has a selection picked. I entered a Key Person who then dropped out of the project. I emptied all the fields but could not delete the information in this field. This is a required field, so if there is an entry, then all the other fields have yellow boxes. With these yellow boxes there cannot be a validation. Without validation, the application cannot be submitted. One easy way to fix it is to have a "blank" option among the pull down choices. This is done above, with the State pull down list. Perhaps a "delete entry" can be added. If there is more than one Key Person, there is a "delete entry," so you can delete all but the last Key Person.' Bob ------------------------------ Robert Beattie UMich e-Business Point of Contact UMich Grants.gov Liaison Managing Senior Project Representative for Electronic Research Administration Division of Research Development and Administration University of Michigan xxxxxx@umich.edu (734) 936-1283 On Jun 5, 2009, at 10:22 AM, Mccauley, Paula M wrote: Try putting your curser in that Project Role (even though it's a drop down list, it should allow you to do this) and just back space. It should delete the project role. I spent about 15 minutes on a subaward budget that did the same thing, and that's how I got it to clear out so that I could proceed to other areas of the application. Good luck! Paula McCauley-Shelton, B.A. Grants Manager UAMS Department of Pediatrics Grants Administration MS 512-1 501-364-2368 Phone 501-364-4656 Fax xxxxxx@uams.edu *NEW* We've Moved! The Pediatric Grants Administration group is now located on the 3rd floor of the ACHRIBuilding. From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Lingle, Gary Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:54 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] Senior/Key Person Wonder if anyone can help. We have a 4242 app going to NIH today. There is only one key person, the PI. However, an entry was inadvertently made in Senior/Key Person 1 and now the form thinks that an entry is required. I can clear all of the fields except Project Role. Many of the fields are highlighted and I does not pass the validation test. Any suggestions? Gary Lingle, CPA Director, Grants and Contracts The Methodist Hospital Research Institute Please visit us at: www.tmhri.org Methodist. Leading Medicine. 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