Sure, everyone represents the university, but not everyone is tasked with
committing resources.  Big difference.

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of
Gina Betcher
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 1:20 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] English

Everyone at a university represents that university.

On grammar, I'm not sure how the sentence can be interpreted to
mean that we, as research administrators, submit applications on
behalf of PIs. PI or research administrator or student (if
allowable) always submits on behalf of a university if the
application moves through the university (using the University's
DUNS number). Otherwise, the applicant might be submitting to a
grant for an individual and in that way they are not submitting on
behalf of a university but on behalf of their own self. "On behalf
of" simply means "for".

Gina Betcher, MFA
Research Officer
Office of the VP for Research
TEL: 269.387-8204
FAX: 269.387-8276
EMAIL: xxxxxx@wmich.edu

>>> Carolyn Elliott-Farino <xxxxxx@KENNESAW.EDU> 5/5/2009 12:38
PM >>>
Hmmm. By submit do they mean the person who uploads the docs and
pushes
the submit button, or do they mean the official applicant? Speaking
on
behalf of my colleagues (if I may), I dare say we interpreted
submit to
mean act as the applicant. If the former, we all submit on behalf
of our
institutions, no?

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf
Of Charlie Hathaway
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 12:23 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] English

Thanks for the near consensus. My original question stemmed from

confusion about a line in an email from the DOE:

"If your university authorizes Principal Investigators (PI) to
submit

applications on behalf of the university, DOE will accept this."

After everyone's comments, I'm now thinking that:

Universities submit on behalf of PIs.

but

There are some officials who actually DO THE SUBMITTING ITSELF on

behalf of the University.  And DOE may simply be acknowledging the

possibility that a University has given signature/submission

authority to the faculty.

CH

At 11:52 AM 5/5/2009, you wrote:

>I concur with everybody who has responded.  The PI is not an
authorized

>official to submit an application on behalf of the university.

>

>Cheers,

>Robert

>

>-----Original Message-----

>From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]
On

>Behalf Of Charlie Hathaway

>Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:19 AM

>To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org

>Subject: [RESADM-L] English

>

>Does a principal investigator submit an application ON BEHALF OF
the

>university?

>or

>Does the university submit an application ON BEHALF OF the
principal

>investigator?

>

>[let's save the "on" vs "in" question for next time]

>

>thanks

>

>Charlie

>

>

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