Re: DUNS number error -- another twist Donahue, Sherie (LLU) 29 Apr 2009 16:39 EST

I have another twist to the DUNS number issue:

The bad news is, it seems that Grants.gov is now sending the copy of the
proposal it rejected due to the DUNS number error on to NIH, and this is
causing the duplicate submission error in the Commons.

The good news is (which I just confirmed with the NIH Helpdesk -- pasted
below), is that only the second copy gets rejected. As long the first
copy of the proposal still has an active AN: link, that copy will go
forward.

 Problem:  esubmissions issues
 Resolution:  Informed the user that she does not have to reject
grants that do not have AN numbers. If 2 grants with AN numbers appear
in the system, she may reject one of them appropriately.

I would also like to say how much I appreciate this listserv. I have
learned so much, and in these crazy times it is nice to know that I am
not alone in the situation.

Sherie Donahue, MS
Electronic Research Specialist
Office of the Vice President for Research Affairs
Loma Linda University
Loma Linda, CA 92350
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-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Lesley Zajac
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 12:43 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number error

I was also asked for this information when I called to follow up on an
application.  I specifically told the help desk person that the MPIN is
for CCR and that I did not understand what it had to do with escalating
my issue to the next level.  I was informed rather curtly that if I did
not provide it, the issue would not be escalated.  I offered our FEID
but was told that was not sufficient.  Then, obviously reading from a
checklist, she asked a series of what I consider totally irrelevant
questions - I was not having technical difficulties submitted the
application, I was having an issue with a DUNS number error.

Lesley S. Zajac
Director, Research Administration
Jaeb Center for Health Research
15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350
Tampa, FL 33647
Tel: 813.975.8690
Fax: 813.975.8761
email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Tom Drinane
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 3:22 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number error

I think this asking for passwords stuff is a very serious issue.  I
would urge those who experienced this behavior by the G.g help desk to
report this up the G.g food chain, starting with Michael Pellegrino.
They really should not be doing this.

Marta Torruella wrote:
> Yes, I was asked for the same two pieces of information when I called
about
> DUNS error responses.  We wound up just resubmitting all the
applications
> that had this issue (this is S2S) and after two tries yesterday, they
were
> all validated by G.g and reached the Commons all OK.  BUT, what is
happening
> now is that G.g is apparently clearing up the original submissions
(with the
> DUNS # issues), validating them and sending them to the Commons.  The
> Commons, of course, is sending us all these ERROR notices because they
are
> considered duplicate applications.  The deadline that will not end....
>
>
> Marta I. Torruella, CRA
> Associate Director
> Sponsored Research and Program Development
> The Rockefeller University
> 1230 York Avenue, Box 82
> New York, NY 10065
> (Founders Hall, Room 301)
> Tel: 212-327-8175; Fax: 212-327-8400
> xxxxxx@rockefeller.edu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of
> Annette Lujan
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:59 AM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number error
>
> Sometime over the past weekend (blurry dismal memory! must
> go... must forget!) .... I left my cell number.
>  Yesterday, they returned my call.  They asked me too for
> my password... and I gave it to them.  Kinda wierd timing
> as I had just completed and was printing my certificate on
> IS security awareness!LOL... at least now I can rest easy
> knowing I am not the only one being asked for it.
> Annette Lujan
> Assistant Director for Proposal Development
> California State University, Long Beach
> 1250 Bellflower Boulevard
> Long Beach, CA 90840
> 562-985-1567
> xxxxxx@csulb.edu
>
>
>   On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 11:49:58 -0400
>   bonnie kwit <xxxxxx@OAKLAND.EDU> wrote:
>
>> You can always change your password.  And they really
>> don't mean MPIN.they
>> mean the EIN.  Anxious to be done with these
>> submissions, I gave them my
>> information so I could get an escalated status to tier
>> 2.
>>
>>
>>
>>  _____
>>
>> From: Research Administration List
>> [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Deborah Grupp-Patrutz
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 11:23 AM
>> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
>> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number error
>>
>>
>>
>> So far we received rejected, about 5 out of over 180
>> applications with this
>> error,
>>
>> We called G.g help desk and they are asking for my AOR
>> password and MPIN,
>>
>> which I've refused to give (our IS has trained us not to
>> share passwords)
>>
>>
>>
>> Now the help desk is stating that they will not escalate
>> this issue without
>> this
>>
>> information.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is anyone else having this issue? Is there a way around
>> giving our MPIN and
>>
>> password out?
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Deborah Grupp-Patrutz
>> Children's Hospital of Philadelphia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> "Dimmitt, Robert" <xxxxxx@INDIANA.EDU> 4/28/2009 7:38
>>>>> PM >>>
>>>>>
>> I know there was some discussion about this a couple of
>> days ago, but are
>> people still getting the incorrect duns number error
>>
> >from grants.gov even
>
>> when your duns number is correct?  Specifically, this
>> error:
>>
>>
>>
>> Error:The DUNS number entered in your package is invalid
>> or does not match
>> the DUNS number that is registered with the Central
>> Contractor Registry
>> (CCR). Please verify that the DUNS number is entered
>> correctly, and is the
>> same as in your Central Contractor Registry (CCR)
>> registration. For
>> instructions on how to register with the CCR, click
>> http://www.grants.gov/CCRRegister
>>
>>
>>
>> We have had this happen on about 7 applications.  I have
>> called g.g and they
>> are elevating them on a "research request" list and I
>> have logged the
>> problem with commons.  If you could, please let me know
>> if you have been
>> regularly experiencing this error in the past few days.
>> Feel free to
>> respond off list.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob Dimmitt
>>
>> Office of Research Administration
>>
>> Indiana University - Purdue University, Indianapolis
>> (IUPUI)
>>
>> xxxxxx@iupui.edu
>>
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