The following is what I think goes on with a submission, especially regarding "Validation" 1. save and submit (and cancel save to save time) 2. enter name and password 3. confirm submission 4. wait (if you use Acrobat you get an nice count down screen) 5. message in red on application -- PROCESSING DO NOT CLOSE FILE 5.5. If you use Acrobat you get the red pin, and you double click on pin 6. Confirmation message, with Grant number 7. Wait a while, now it is about 10 minutes 8. Get a confirming email, with the grant number. and "Your application has been received by Grants.gov, and is currently being validated." "Validation may take up to 2 business days" The application is not yet validated. If you look at the list of applications submitted, as an AOR or EBizPOC you will not find it in the list. I do not know if the Help Desk people can see it either. If you use the new tracking process, you will get a message "There is no status available for the tracking number(s) entered." 9. Within 48 hours, you will get a second message that will state one of two things "Your application has been received and validated by Grants.gov and is being prepared for Grantor agency retrieval and review." NOW it is validated and will count as being submitted as of the original confirmation message date and time. or it will state "Your application has been received... However, it contained the following errors and cannot be forwarded to the granting agency.The following errors were detected:" This is bad. Your original Confirmation date and time is no longer valid. If the error is something strange, you can get a case number and appeal to NIH to accept a corrected version. Especially if this is a false error. However, if a real error such as a bad attachment, or wrong DUNS then NIH might not give you leeway. I do not recall their current policy. Once the application has been validated or gets an error, Help Desk staff can see it for sure. You can see the status if you use the new tracking process or log in as AOR or EBizPOC These are much faster to appear if you use S2S. Smaller files and some other advantages. 10. If application is good, then you get two more messages Your application has been retrieved by the Grantor agency and is currently being reviewed. Your application has been reviewed by the Grantor agency and assigned an Agency Tracking Number. 11. Then you get your NIH message. Hope this helps, let me know if I missed something Bob ------------------------------ Robert Beattie Division of Research Development and Administration University of Michigan xxxxxx@umich.edu (734) 936-1283 On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:08 PM, Hogan, Catherine wrote: Except, I submitted to G.g and had my confirmation number which ended up not existing when I called G.g about not getting a validation!! Catherine Hogan Office of Research and Sponsored Programs University of Montana, University Hall 205 32 Campus Drive xxxxxx@mso.umt.edu Phone: 406-243-2169 Fax: 406-243-5739 > <( ( ( ( (º> -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bloomberg, Robert Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:56 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been validated... Let's back up a step or two. The way I understand it, if you get a received notice from g.g, with a confirmation number (GRANTxxxxxx) and it is before the deadline, then you are OK. You then have 48 hours after the deadline to correct errors. If the errors are system errors, or if eCommons or g.g delays you, then you are still OK--you have your ticket number, and an explanation that delay was beyond your control. What have I missed? Robert P. Bloomberg Director, Office of Grants & Contracts Tufts Medical Center 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10) Boston, MA 02111 Tel. 617.636.1142 Fax. 617.636.8568 > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf > Of bonnie kwit > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:39 PM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > validated... > > There is something that has me a bit bothered. Shelli stated that > grants.gov confirmed that her submissions were received and are in the > process of being validated. However, they told me because I had only > gotten > the "received" email they couldn't confirm anything. I had to wait 48 > hours > and then call back. Yesterday, someone also mentioned after a phone > call > to > grants.gov it was confirmed the submission had been received. Why > can't > they confirm my submissions have been received and are just in a que > waiting > their turn for validation? Puzzeling!! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf > Of > Shelli Shababo > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:01 PM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > validated... > > You are not alone. I was checking my e-mail at midnight. I finally > called > grants.gov this morning. They confirmed that my submissions were > received > and are in the process of being validated. Although I still haven't > received the e-mail. > > Shelli Shababo > Research Grants & Contracts Coordinator > Albert Einstein Healthcare Network > 5501 Old York Road > Korman 100 > Philadelphia, PA 19141 > Phone: 215-456-7218 > Fax: 215-456-8122 > > "The difference between stupidity and genius > is that genius has its limits." > - Albert Einstein > >>>> Vicki Krell <xxxxxx@ASU.EDU> 4/23/2009 1:47 PM >>> > I know we're trying to be patient, due to MASSIVE volume for all the > Challenge grant submissions, but I want to make sure that I'm not > the only > one who is still waiting for a validation (as well as the other) > g.g e- > mail > for a proposal submitted late Tuesday afternoon. I find myself > waking up > in > the middle of the night and fighting to not jump out of bed and log > onto > the > computer to see if my proposals have shown up in eCommons yet. > > I know how pathetic that is but I also know that all of you can relate > even > if my family and non-research administrator friends can't! > > Looking forward to some assurances from you guys that I'm not alone... > > Vicki > > Vicki Krell, CRA > Research Advancement Supervisor > College of Liberal Arts and Sciences > Research Advancement Office > Box 876405 > Tempe, AZ 85287-6405 > (480) 965-2171 > (480) 965-1093 > mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu > > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > > > This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to > which it > is > addressed and may contain information that is privileged and > confidential, > the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. 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