Re: My challenge grant still hasn't been validated... Bloomberg, Robert 23 Apr 2009 15:44 EST
A classic Catch-22. Robert P. Bloomberg Director, Office of Grants & Contracts Tufts Medical Center 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10) Boston, MA 02111 Tel. 617.636.1142 Fax. 617.636.8568 > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf > Of schodian > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:38 PM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been validated... > > I just thought I would toss the following in - in case anyone else runs > into > the same situation: > > I called G.g. about a 42 hour old submission that I had not received a > VALIDATION for, and they told me to wait 48 hours. If, after 48 hours, I > did not receive a VALIDATION, I could call them back. At that time they > would send my case to a technician and that technician would get back to > me > in FOUR DAYS!! > > The person at the helpdesk said I had the option of submitting again after > 48 hours if I did not get a VALIDATION, and I wondered to myself, "If I > submit again, how will I know the same thing won't occur? I don't know if > something is wrong with the package itself or if I did not receive > validation because it is simply a monstrously long delay." > > Is "FLAT AFFECT" also a symptom of Grants.gov Disorder? > > > Diana Schow > Grant/Sponsored Programs Specialist > Idaho State University > Phone: 208-282-3832 > Fax: 208-282-4723 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf > Of > Bloomberg, Robert > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:15 PM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been validated... > > But you have a confirmation number, and presumably a ticket number. > Eventually their system will catch up. But even if not, you have the > evidence that you submitted on time, and it was not your fault that their > system delayed you. > > Robert P. Bloomberg > Director, Office of Grants & Contracts > Tufts Medical Center > 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10) > Boston, MA 02111 > Tel. 617.636.1142 > Fax. 617.636.8568 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf > > Of Hogan, Catherine > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:08 PM > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > validated... > > > > Except, I submitted to G.g and had my confirmation number which ended up > > not existing when I called G.g about not getting a validation!! > > > > Catherine Hogan > > > > Office of Research and Sponsored Programs > > University of Montana, University Hall 205 > > 32 Campus Drive > > xxxxxx@mso.umt.edu > > Phone: 406-243-2169 > > Fax: 406-243-5739 > > ><( ( ( ( (º> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf > > Of Bloomberg, Robert > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:56 PM > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > validated... > > > > Let's back up a step or two. > > > > The way I understand it, if you get a received notice from g.g, with a > > confirmation number (GRANTxxxxxx) and it is before the deadline, then > you > > are OK. You then have 48 hours after the deadline to correct errors. > If > > the errors are system errors, or if eCommons or g.g delays you, then you > > are still OK--you have your ticket number, and an explanation that delay > > was beyond your control. > > > > What have I missed? > > > > Robert P. Bloomberg > > Director, Office of Grants & Contracts > > Tufts Medical Center > > 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10) > > Boston, MA 02111 > > Tel. 617.636.1142 > > Fax. 617.636.8568 > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > > Behalf > > > Of bonnie kwit > > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:39 PM > > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > > validated... > > > > > > There is something that has me a bit bothered. Shelli stated that > > > grants.gov confirmed that her submissions were received and are in the > > > process of being validated. However, they told me because I had only > > > gotten > > > the "received" email they couldn't confirm anything. I had to wait 48 > > > hours > > > and then call back. Yesterday, someone also mentioned after a phone > call > > > to > > > grants.gov it was confirmed the submission had been received. Why > can't > > > they confirm my submissions have been received and are just in a que > > > waiting > > > their turn for validation? Puzzeling!! > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > > Behalf > > > Of > > > Shelli Shababo > > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:01 PM > > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been > > validated... > > > > > > You are not alone. I was checking my e-mail at midnight. I finally > > > called > > > grants.gov this morning. They confirmed that my submissions were > > received > > > and are in the process of being validated. Although I still haven't > > > received the e-mail. > > > > > > Shelli Shababo > > > Research Grants & Contracts Coordinator > > > Albert Einstein Healthcare Network > > > 5501 Old York Road > > > Korman 100 > > > Philadelphia, PA 19141 > > > Phone: 215-456-7218 > > > Fax: 215-456-8122 > > > > > > "The difference between stupidity and genius > > > is that genius has its limits." > > > - Albert Einstein > > > > > > >>> Vicki Krell <xxxxxx@ASU.EDU> 4/23/2009 1:47 PM >>> > > > I know we're trying to be patient, due to MASSIVE volume for all the > > > Challenge grant submissions, but I want to make sure that I'm not the > > only > > > one who is still waiting for a validation (as well as the other) g.g > e- > > > mail > > > for a proposal submitted late Tuesday afternoon. I find myself waking > up > > > in > > > the middle of the night and fighting to not jump out of bed and log > onto > > > the > > > computer to see if my proposals have shown up in eCommons yet. > > > > > > I know how pathetic that is but I also know that all of you can relate > > > even > > > if my family and non-research administrator friends can't! > > > > > > Looking forward to some assurances from you guys that I'm not alone... > > > > > > Vicki > > > > > > Vicki Krell, CRA > > > Research Advancement Supervisor > > > College of Liberal Arts and Sciences > > > Research Advancement Office > > > Box 876405 > > > Tempe, AZ 85287-6405 > > > (480) 965-2171 > > > (480) 965-1093 > > > mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > ====================================================================== > > > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > > > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > > > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > > > ====================================================================== > > > > > > > > > > > > This message is intended for the use of the person or entity to which > it > > > is > > > addressed and may contain information that is privileged and > > confidential, > > > the disclosure of which is governed by applicable law. 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