Re: My challenge grant still hasn't been validated... Bloomberg, Robert 23 Apr 2009 15:44 EST

A classic Catch-22.

Robert P. Bloomberg
Director, Office of Grants & Contracts
Tufts Medical Center
800 Washington Street (Tupper 10)
Boston, MA  02111
Tel.   617.636.1142
Fax.  617.636.8568

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf
> Of schodian
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:38 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been validated...
>
> I just thought I would toss the following in - in case anyone else runs
> into
> the same situation:
>
> I called G.g. about a 42 hour old submission that I had not received a
> VALIDATION for, and they told me to wait 48 hours.  If, after 48 hours, I
> did not receive a VALIDATION, I could call them back. At that time they
> would send my case to a technician and that technician would get back to
> me
> in FOUR DAYS!!
>
> The person at the helpdesk said I had the option of submitting again after
> 48 hours if I did not get a VALIDATION, and I wondered to myself, "If I
> submit again, how will I know the same thing won't occur?  I don't know if
> something is wrong with the package itself or if I did not receive
> validation because it is simply a monstrously long delay."
>
> Is "FLAT AFFECT" also a symptom of Grants.gov Disorder?
>
>
> Diana Schow
> Grant/Sponsored Programs Specialist
> Idaho State University
> Phone:  208-282-3832
> Fax:  208-282-4723
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf
> Of
> Bloomberg, Robert
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:15 PM
> To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been validated...
>
> But you have a confirmation number, and presumably a ticket number.
> Eventually their system will catch up.  But even if not, you have the
> evidence that you submitted on time, and it was not your fault that their
> system delayed you.
>
> Robert P. Bloomberg
> Director, Office of Grants & Contracts
> Tufts Medical Center
> 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10)
> Boston, MA  02111
> Tel.   617.636.1142
> Fax.  617.636.8568
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Hogan, Catherine
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 4:08 PM
> > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been
> validated...
> >
> > Except, I submitted to G.g and had my confirmation number which ended up
> > not existing when I called G.g about not getting a validation!!
> >
> > Catherine Hogan
> >
> > Office of Research and Sponsored Programs
> > University of Montana, University Hall 205
> > 32 Campus Drive
> > xxxxxx@mso.umt.edu
> > Phone: 406-243-2169
> > Fax: 406-243-5739
> > ><( ( ( ( (º>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> Behalf
> > Of Bloomberg, Robert
> > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 1:56 PM
> > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been
> validated...
> >
> > Let's back up a step or two.
> >
> > The way I understand it, if you get a received notice from g.g, with a
> > confirmation number (GRANTxxxxxx) and it is before the deadline, then
> you
> > are OK.  You then have 48 hours after the deadline to correct errors.
> If
> > the errors are system errors, or if eCommons or g.g delays you, then you
> > are still OK--you have your ticket number, and an explanation that delay
> > was beyond your control.
> >
> > What have I missed?
> >
> > Robert P. Bloomberg
> > Director, Office of Grants & Contracts
> > Tufts Medical Center
> > 800 Washington Street (Tupper 10)
> > Boston, MA  02111
> > Tel.   617.636.1142
> > Fax.  617.636.8568
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of bonnie kwit
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 3:39 PM
> > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been
> > validated...
> > >
> > > There is something that has me a bit bothered.  Shelli stated that
> > > grants.gov confirmed that her submissions were received and are in the
> > > process of being validated.  However, they told me because I had only
> > > gotten
> > > the "received" email they couldn't confirm anything.  I had to wait 48
> > > hours
> > > and then call back. Yesterday, someone also mentioned after a phone
> call
> > > to
> > > grants.gov it was confirmed the submission had been received.  Why
> can't
> > > they confirm my submissions have been received and are just in a que
> > > waiting
> > > their  turn for validation?   Puzzeling!!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Shelli Shababo
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 2:01 PM
> > > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> > > Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] My challenge grant still hasn't been
> > validated...
> > >
> > > You are not alone.  I was checking my e-mail at midnight.  I finally
> > > called
> > > grants.gov this morning.  They confirmed that my submissions were
> > received
> > > and are in the process of being validated.  Although I still haven't
> > > received the e-mail.
> > >
> > > Shelli Shababo
> > > Research Grants & Contracts Coordinator
> > > Albert Einstein Healthcare Network
> > > 5501 Old York Road
> > > Korman 100
> > > Philadelphia, PA  19141
> > > Phone: 215-456-7218
> > > Fax: 215-456-8122
> > >
> > > "The difference between stupidity and genius
> > >      is that genius has its limits."
> > >          - Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > >>> Vicki Krell <xxxxxx@ASU.EDU> 4/23/2009 1:47 PM >>>
> > > I know we're trying to be patient, due to MASSIVE volume for all the
> > > Challenge grant submissions, but I want to make sure that I'm not the
> > only
> > > one who is still waiting for a validation (as well as the other) g.g
> e-
> > > mail
> > > for a proposal submitted late Tuesday afternoon. I find myself waking
> up
> > > in
> > > the middle of the night and fighting to not jump out of bed and log
> onto
> > > the
> > > computer to see if my proposals have shown up in eCommons yet.
> > >
> > > I know how pathetic that is but I also know that all of you can relate
> > > even
> > > if my family and non-research administrator friends can't!
> > >
> > > Looking forward to some assurances from you guys that I'm not alone...
> > >
> > > Vicki
> > >
> > > Vicki Krell, CRA
> > > Research Advancement Supervisor
> > > College of Liberal Arts and Sciences
> > > Research Advancement Office
> > > Box 876405
> > > Tempe, AZ  85287-6405
> > > (480) 965-2171
> > > (480) 965-1093
> > > mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu
> > >
> > >
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