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Re: Challenge Grant_Question Regarding Abstract Summary Bob Beattie 22 Apr 2009 16:53 EST

This is a troublesome error that I have heard about from others.
Many times it is caused by a second, blank, page that gets "trapped"
in the file when the PDF is made.

The help desk reports
"Applicants should follow the RFA instructions which indicate limiting
the file to one page. The eRA system will only throw the error "The
Project Summary/Abstract in Other Project Information, item 6 is limited
to 30 lines of text." if the pdf file exceeds one page."

If anyone gets this error take a look in the file for that phantom
extra page.   They said just because you can put
in a full page of text, best not to do so :)

Bob
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On Apr 22, 2009, at 5:10 PM, Jennifer Hyne wrote:

For what it's worth, we had a one-page summary (approximately 36
lines) today and our proposal errored out of the system.

Here's the message we got:

ERROR: The Project Summary/Abstract in Other Project Information,
item 6 is limited to 30 lines of text.
WARNING: The Employer Identification Number on the SF424 RR Cover
page must be a length of 9 characters or 12 characters.

(We had an extra space after the EIN but that was just a warning.)

The entire proposal errored out SOLELY due to the length of the
abstract, which was very clearly under the one page limit.

Jennifer E. Hyne
Research Administrator
The Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard
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Cambridge, MA 02142
Phone: (617) 324-6250
Fax: (617) 452-4588
E-mail: xxxxxx@broad.mit.edu
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Joelina Peck wrote:
>
> Kris,
>
> Thanks, the guidelines state specifically that the Asbstract/
> Summary are limited to one page (see below). We contacted NIH CSR,
> Division of Receipt and Referral to confirm that the project
> summary for the Challenge grants are limited to one page, per the
> guidelines. We spoke with Hope Fato who confirmed that the
> instructions in the *_guidelines will always take precedence, and
> should be followed specifically._* If the guidelines state one
> page, then it’s one page.
>
> A big sigh of relief!
>
> *Special Instructions for Other Project Information (Section 4.4 of
> SF424 (R&R) Application)*
>
> · *Item 6. Project Summary/Abstract: *Limited to one page.* *Begin
> this section by stating the broad Challenge Area and the specific
> Challenge Topic that this application addresses. Use the following
> format/: This application addresses broad Challenge Area (01)
> Behavior, Behavioral Change, and Prevention and specific Challenge
> Topic, 01-GM-104: Mechanisms of Behavior Change Research. /Continue
> with the instructions in the SF424 (R&R) Application Guide.
>
> *Joelina Peck, CRA*
>
> (480) 965- 4878 Voice mail
>
> (480) 280-0759 Blackberry
>
> (480) 965-3552 Fax
>
> xxxxxx@asu.edu <mailto:xxxxxx@asu.edu>
>
> *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Kris Wolff
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 12:59 PM
> *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] Challenge Grant_Question Regarding
> Abstract Summary
>
> Sorry, and to clarify – the challenge grant RFA says to include a
> section at the top of the summary with the specific challenge grant
> research area information and then after that “Continue with the
> instructions in the SF424 (R&R) Application Guide.” That last
> sentence is the part that means, keep the rest of it to 30 lines.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
>
> *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Joelina Peck
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:41 PM
> *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org
> *Subject:* [RESADM-L] Challenge Grant_Question Regarding Abstract
> Summary
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just learned that that the program summary section of the
> challenge grants are limited to 30 lines of text? A department
> staff member emailed NIH and received a confirmation that it is
> limited to 30 lines of text. I can’t find any notice updates from
> NIH for RFA-OD-09-003 that address this change and according to the
> guidelines the limitation listed is 1 page. Has anyone else heard
> this information? Have you been using the 30 lines of text or has
> anyone submitted with a one page summary? If there was an update
> can someone please share?
>
> Thanks for any information you can provide!
>
> *Joelina Peck, CRA*
>
> Resource Proposal Analyst Sr.
>
> Research Management Office
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