Thanks Lesley for jogging Bob's memory, and thanks Bob for the reprint. I should have gone through the archives first. So the bottom line is, yes, get a DUNS number for the foreign subcontractor, to be safe, but if you can't get it before submission, use the nine zeros. Kris -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beattie Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:09 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component Thanks for putting me on the spot :) This is about the most obscure data item of all NIH otherwise excellent notes. Maybe they could put it in the Guide. http://era.nih.gov/ElectronicReceipt/faq_prepare_app.htm#2b # Is a DUNS number required for every subaward/consortium organization? Ideally yes. The 'Organization DUNS' is a required field on the 'Research & Related Budget' form, regardless of the budget "type"- project or subaward/consortium. However, at the subaward level, neither Grants.gov nor NIH currently validates on the accuracy of that field. For subaward organizations, eRA Commons only validates that the DUNS field contains a value and that the value is not the same DUNS number provided by the prime applicant. At this time the eRA Commons does not do any further validations on the accuracy of the number. So for now, if a subaward/consortium organization is unable to secure a DUNS number in time, then a value of nine zeros can be entered in the DUNS field on the subaward/consortium budget component. This requirement may change over time. Remember that the prime applicant uses the R&R Subaward Budget Attachment form to generate a copy of the Research & Related Budget form that can be sent to the subaward/consortium organization, filled out, sent back to the prime and attached to the R&R Subaward Budget Attachment form. Bob ------------------------------ On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Lesley Zajac wrote: It was a previous post to this list, by Bob Beattie I believe Lesley S. Zajac Director, Research Administration Jaeb Center for Health Research 15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350 Tampa, FL 33647 Tel: 813.975.8690 Fax: 813.975.8761 email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Kris Wolff Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:50 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component Lesley, we did use the 44-4444444 for their EIN, but can you tell me where you got the information about using zeros for the DUNS? I can't find it actually documented anywhere. Thanks! Kris From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Lesley Zajac Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:23 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component I think you use 44-4444444 for the EIN for a foreign institution and 000000000 for a foreign institution DUNS number - if they don't have Lesley S. Zajac Director, Research Administration Jaeb Center for Health Research 15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350 Tampa, FL 33647 Tel: 813.975.8690 Fax: 813.975.8761 email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Kris Wolff Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:07 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component Hi Folks, I have looked all over the NIH website and various guidelines regarding whether a foreign component of an NIH grant, who is a subcontractor, needs a DUNS number. The language is a little unclear, I found a DUNS Q&A document that states that even foreign institutions must obtain a DUNS number but it does not say if that still applies if they are a subcontractor and not the prime institution. I also did not find any guidelines of what to do in the case that a foreign subcontractor does not have a DUNS number, which suggests to me, again, that even they must have one. Anyone know for sure? Thanks, Kris ------------------------------------------------------- Kris Wolff, MA, CRA Grants Officer Office of Sponsored Programs Rose Hill campus, ADM 221 718-817-4086 http://www.fordham.edu/osp ====================================================================== I nstructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== I nstructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== I nstructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== I nstructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
