Bob:

You are entirely welcome!!!!  :) :) Are we all having fun yet?

Lesley S. Zajac
Director, Research Administration
Jaeb Center for Health Research
15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350
Tampa, FL 33647
Tel: 813.975.8690
Fax: 813.975.8761
email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org

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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Bob Beattie
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 4:09 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component

Thanks for putting me on the spot :)  This is about the most obscure
data item of all NIH otherwise excellent notes.  Maybe they could put
it in the Guide.

http://era.nih.gov/ElectronicReceipt/faq_prepare_app.htm#2b

# Is a DUNS number required for every subaward/consortium organization?
Ideally yes. The 'Organization DUNS' is a required field on the
'Research & Related Budget' form, regardless of the budget "type"-
project or subaward/consortium. However, at the subaward level,
neither Grants.gov nor NIH currently validates on the accuracy of
that field. For subaward organizations, eRA Commons only validates
that the DUNS field contains a value and that the value is not the
same DUNS number provided by the prime applicant. At this time the
eRA Commons does not do any further validations on the accuracy of
the number. So for now, if a subaward/consortium organization is
unable to secure a DUNS number in time, then a value of nine zeros
can be entered in the DUNS field on the subaward/consortium budget
component. This requirement may change over time.

Remember that the prime applicant uses the R&R Subaward Budget
Attachment form to generate a copy of the Research & Related Budget
form that can be sent to the subaward/consortium organization, filled
out, sent back to the prime and attached to the R&R Subaward Budget
Attachment form.

Bob
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On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:58 PM, Lesley Zajac wrote:

It was a previous post to this list, by Bob Beattie I believe

Lesley S. Zajac
Director, Research Administration
Jaeb Center for Health Research
15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350
Tampa, FL 33647
Tel: 813.975.8690
Fax: 813.975.8761
email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org

From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Kris Wolff
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:50 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component

Lesley, we did use the 44-4444444 for their EIN, but can you tell me
where you got the information about using zeros for the DUNS?  I
can't find it actually documented anywhere.

Thanks!
Kris

From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Lesley Zajac
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:23 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component

I think you use 44-4444444 for the EIN for a foreign institution and
000000000 for a foreign institution DUNS number - if they don't have

Lesley S. Zajac
Director, Research Administration
Jaeb Center for Health Research
15310 Amberly Drive, Ste 350
Tampa, FL 33647
Tel: 813.975.8690
Fax: 813.975.8761
email: xxxxxx@jaeb.org

From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On
Behalf Of Kris Wolff
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 3:07 PM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] DUNS number for foreign component

Hi Folks,
I have looked all over the NIH website and various guidelines
regarding whether a foreign component of an NIH grant, who is a
subcontractor, needs a DUNS number.  The language is a little
unclear, I found a DUNS Q&A document that states that even foreign
institutions must obtain a DUNS number but it does not say if that
still applies if they are a subcontractor and not the prime
institution.  I also did not find any guidelines of what to do in the
case that a foreign subcontractor does not have a DUNS number, which
suggests to me, again, that even they must have one.

Anyone know for sure?

Thanks,
Kris

-------------------------------------------------------
Kris Wolff, MA, CRA
Grants Officer
Office of Sponsored Programs
Rose Hill campus, ADM 221
718-817-4086
http://www.fordham.edu/osp

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