Here's the follow-up from NIH:

After being referred back and forth between the eRA Commons Help Desk
and the Grants Info Help Desk (and an attempt to send me to the
Grants.gov Help Desk), after several days they agreed that my Commons
error message was incorrect.  They have some idea that the system was
programmed to compare my year 14 revision (supplement) to the year 1
parent grant, not the most recent renewal (year 11).  Year one did in
fact have a detailed budget, because Modular Budgets had probably not
yet been invented!  NIH will probably re-program their validations
for the future, but for now, their only solution was for me to
replace my modular budget with a detailed R&R budget and resubmit.  I
did that, but when it reached the Commons I got a Warning that I
SHOULD have used the Modular budget.  I think I'll break this cycle
and let them review the application as it is now.   -Jean

At 08:47 AM 2/20/2009, you wrote:
>Someone has probably written the software to "match" to prior submission
>without accounting for nulls where there is nothing prior to match.
>Their programmers need to get back to work.
>
>Thanks!
>
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>Subject: [RESADM-L] false Commons error message? non-match to parent
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>Dear Colleagues-  Last night I got a fatal error message from the eRA
>Commons that appears to be a mistake.  The Commons help desk does not
>understand it either, and is continuing to research the problem, but
>I wondered if any of you had a similar experience, and if you found a
>solution.
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>We submitted a "revision" (competing supplement) proposal via
>Grants.gov under RFA-AR-09-001.  The instructions say to use a
>modular budget if you did so in the parent grant, but to use a
>detailed budget if that was what was submitted with the parent.
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>Our error message was: "The parent grant for this revision uses the
>non-modular format; therefore, this application may include a
>detailed R&R budget component only."
>
>However, our last competing renewal application DID NOT USE the
>non-modular format.  Perhaps there is a programming mistake in their
>validation process.  I'm not sure how they would determine this
>anyway, as our last competing submission was done on paper PHS 398
>forms, with only eSNAPs and minority supplements submitted since.
>
>Any helpful comments?  Thanks.  -Jean
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>PS-  My Grants.gov log-in and submission worked the first time, and
>all emails arrived within 20 minutes!  What a shock to have the
>problems occur with the NIH validation!
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