Here's the follow-up from NIH: After being referred back and forth between the eRA Commons Help Desk and the Grants Info Help Desk (and an attempt to send me to the Grants.gov Help Desk), after several days they agreed that my Commons error message was incorrect. They have some idea that the system was programmed to compare my year 14 revision (supplement) to the year 1 parent grant, not the most recent renewal (year 11). Year one did in fact have a detailed budget, because Modular Budgets had probably not yet been invented! NIH will probably re-program their validations for the future, but for now, their only solution was for me to replace my modular budget with a detailed R&R budget and resubmit. I did that, but when it reached the Commons I got a Warning that I SHOULD have used the Modular budget. I think I'll break this cycle and let them review the application as it is now. -Jean At 08:47 AM 2/20/2009, you wrote: >Someone has probably written the software to "match" to prior submission >without accounting for nulls where there is nothing prior to match. >Their programmers need to get back to work. > >Thanks! > >Janis Lenox, Director, Contracts & Grants > >NCIRE - The Veterans Health Research Institute >San Francisco VA Medical Center >4150 Clement Street, 151 NC >San Francisco, CA 94121-1545 > >Office: 415-750-6954, ext. 5536 >Fax: 415-750-9358 >Email: xxxxxx@ncire.org >website: www.ncire.org > > > >Confidentiality Notice >This e-mail transmission may contain confidential or legally privileged >information that is intended only for the individual or entity named in >the e-mail address. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or reliance >upon the contents of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have >received this transmission in error, please reply to the sender, so that >we can arrange for proper delivery, and then please delete the message >from your inbox. Thank you. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On >Behalf Of Jean C. Linder >Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:33 AM >To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org >Subject: [RESADM-L] false Commons error message? non-match to parent >budget form > >Dear Colleagues- Last night I got a fatal error message from the eRA >Commons that appears to be a mistake. The Commons help desk does not >understand it either, and is continuing to research the problem, but >I wondered if any of you had a similar experience, and if you found a >solution. > >We submitted a "revision" (competing supplement) proposal via >Grants.gov under RFA-AR-09-001. The instructions say to use a >modular budget if you did so in the parent grant, but to use a >detailed budget if that was what was submitted with the parent. > >Our error message was: "The parent grant for this revision uses the >non-modular format; therefore, this application may include a >detailed R&R budget component only." > >However, our last competing renewal application DID NOT USE the >non-modular format. Perhaps there is a programming mistake in their >validation process. I'm not sure how they would determine this >anyway, as our last competing submission was done on paper PHS 398 >forms, with only eSNAPs and minority supplements submitted since. > >Any helpful comments? Thanks. -Jean > >PS- My Grants.gov log-in and submission worked the first time, and >all emails arrived within 20 minutes! What a shock to have the >problems occur with the NIH validation! > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Jean C. Linder > Contract & Grant Officer > Univ. of California, San Diego > Ofc. of Contract & Grant Admin. voice: (858) 534-0244 > 9500 Gilman Drive, 0934 fax: (858) 534-0280 > La Jolla, CA 92093-0934 e-mail: xxxxxx@ucsd.edu > > OVERNIGHT MAIL DELIVERY ADDRESS: > 10300 North Torrey Pines Road, Second Floor > La Jolla, CA 92037 > > OCGA Web Site: http://ocga3.ucsd.edu >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== > > >====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >====================================================================== ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Jean C. 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