We allow this as long as the coercion factor is minimized. We generally suggest that consent forms requesting use of data collected during class (papers, discussions, etc.) be distributed on the last day of class, collected by someone other than the instructor, and that the instructor not be given the consent forms until after grades are posted -- similar to the process of collecting evaluations. We also request that information be distributed at the start of the semester informing students that their professor wishes to use class room material for a research project and that consent will be requested at the end of the semester. For a professor who wants to collect non-classroom data (e.g., a separate survey or questionnaire), we request that written consent not be collected and that the survey instrument read "you are consenting to participant in this study by completing and returning this questionnaire." Someone other than the instructor should distribute and collect the surveys and the professor should not be present. This way, the professor has no way of knowing who participated and who didn't, as long as identifiers are limited on the questionnaire. Sounds like a general discussion is in order at your next board meeting to form P&P on this issue and the majority of the quorum rules. Cathy Catherine T. Anson, MA, CRA, CIM Director of Sponsored Research John Carroll University, AD 250 University Heights, OH 44118-4581 TEL: 216-397-4520 | FAX: 216-397-3089 xxxxxx@jcu.edu | http://www.jcu.edu/research -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth Sherwin Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:53 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Using One's Students as Human Subjects - Comments Please We are dealing with similar issues. Our P&P discourages but does not prohibit. Then in a situation where it only merits expedited, we try and provide "distancing" mechanisms --- so the PI never really knows which of the students said and did what. In a case study we brought it to the full board (a solution when one reviewer has ethical issues with the dilemma -- any one of the Board can bounce a protocol to FB if they feel it is necessary). In the instance of the case study (with a grad student) we asked for a detailed protocol as to why this woman, and detailed suggestions for how to protect her. We will bring her before the Board before we render a decision so that she can "nay" to us if she wants to, and the protection gets enacted. lisa At 10:20 AM 1/22/2009, you wrote: >If a reviewer has an ethical issue he or she should recuse him or >herself from the review of such studies and it should go to another >expediter team. >What is more important is that the students should not feel >threatened that if they don't participate in the research, they will >be subject to negative consequences by the researcher/teacher. Are >they "using" their own students or "recruiting" their own students, >you use both words in your description, but "using" implies the >students have no choice and "recruiting" implies they have the >option of not participating. > >Alex > > >----------------------------------------- > >Alexander Schoen > >Director, Office of Sponsored Programs > ><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = >"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Winthrop-University Hospital > >222 Station Plaza North, Suite 510 > >Mineola, NY 11501 > >Phone: (516) 663-4931 > >Fax: (516) 663-9718 > ><mailto:xxxxxx@winthrop.org>xxxxxx@winthrop.org > >P Please consider the environment before printing this email > > > >---------- >From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On >Behalf Of Barbara Gray >Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:04 AM >To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org >Subject: [RESADM-L] Using One's Students as Human Subjects - Comments Please > >Our IRB is in a spirited debate about whether or not to carte >blanche prohibit researchers from using their own students as >research subjects and I need some "supporting" input. I am firmly >opposed to adding any more restrictions then the feds give us and >believe that each project should be reviewed on its own merits, but >I don't have a vote. Some IRB members feel that the unequal >power in the relationship is always strong enough so that the >rights of subjects can't be adequately protected, despite the risk >level, alternatives to participation, etc. offered, when a faculty >member uses his/her own students. Others members come from >disciplines in which it is not uncommon to recruit one's own >students; the also question how some pedagogical research could be >accomplished if one can't use his/her own students as subjects. If >the IRB does not restrict use of one's own students as participants, >how do we deal with the expedited review process when one of the >expediters (we use teams of two) truly feels that use of one's own >subjects is not ethical gets a protocol that does involve the >researcher using his/her own students? Do we tell reviewers that >they must review in accordance with the IRB's position, in effect >asking them to violate his/her own ethical principle? Or, short of >having all these protocols referred for convened review and group >decision, is there another way to handle the member's personal >conflict? (This kind of discussion is why I love working with the IRB!!) > >Thanks. > > > >Ms. Barbara H. Gray > >Director of Grants & Contracts > >Valdosta State University > >1500 North Patterson Street > >Valdosta, GA 31698-0429 > > > >Telephone: 229-333-7837 > >Fax: 229-245-3853 > >Email: xxxxxx@valdosta.edu > > > >====================================================================== >Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv >Lists") ====================================================================== > >====================================================================== >Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv >Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================