We are dealing with similar issues. Our P&P discourages but does not
prohibit. Then in a situation where it only merits expedited, we try
and provide "distancing" mechanisms --- so the PI  never really knows
which of the students said and did what.  In a case study we brought
it to the full board (a solution when one reviewer has ethical issues
with the dilemma -- any one of the Board can bounce a protocol to FB
if they feel it is necessary).  In the instance of the case study
(with a grad student) we asked for a detailed protocol as to why this
woman, and detailed suggestions for how to protect her. We will bring
her before the Board before we render a decision so that she can
"nay" to us if she wants to, and the protection gets enacted.

lisa

At 10:20 AM 1/22/2009, you wrote:
>If a reviewer has an ethical issue he or she should recuse him or
>herself from the review of such studies and it should go to another
>expediter team.
>What is more important is that the students should not feel
>threatened that if they don't participate in the research, they will
>be subject to negative consequences by the researcher/teacher.  Are
>they "using" their own students or "recruiting" their own students,
>you use both words in your description, but "using" implies the
>students have no choice and "recruiting" implies they have the
>option of not participating.
>
>Alex
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>Subject: [RESADM-L] Using One's Students as Human Subjects - Comments Please
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>Our IRB is in a spirited debate about whether or not to carte
>blanche prohibit researchers from using their own students as
>research subjects and I need some "supporting" input.  I am firmly
>opposed to adding any more restrictions then the feds give us and
>believe that each project should be reviewed on its own merits, but
>I don't have a vote.  Some IRB members feel that the unequal
>power  in the relationship is always strong enough so that the
>rights of subjects can't be adequately protected, despite the risk
>level, alternatives to participation, etc. offered, when a faculty
>member uses his/her own students.  Others members come from
>disciplines in which it is not uncommon to recruit one's own
>students; the also question how some pedagogical research could be
>accomplished if one can't use his/her own students as subjects.  If
>the IRB does not restrict use of one's own students as participants,
>how do we deal with the expedited review process when one of the
>expediters (we use teams of two) truly feels that use of one's own
>subjects is not ethical gets a protocol that does involve the
>researcher using his/her own students?  Do we tell reviewers that
>they must review in accordance with the IRB's position, in effect
>asking them to violate his/her own ethical principle?  Or, short of
>having all these protocols referred for convened review and group
>decision, is there another way to handle the member's personal
>conflict?  (This kind of discussion is why I love working with the IRB!!)
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>Thanks.
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>Director of Grants & Contracts
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