Thanks, Vicky! Although my institution does not fall under A-21, that is still good info. Especially since A-21 is more updated than the cost principles for hospitals. I still wonder, though, how it is possible to explain someone being a PI on a project with voluntary uncommitted cost-sharing/matching that is not reported. If a person is named as a PI, how can it be explained that they do not have to report effort? Kristy:) Kristy Ford Grant Management Manager Financial Reporting Administration Memorial University Medical Center Savannah, GA 31404 (912)350-6379 >>> Victoria Jensen <xxxxxx@CSUEASTBAY.EDU> 11/10/2008 12:45 PM >>> Dear Peg and Kristy, I looked this up last year, because I was also thinking that even if the effort is not in the budget (as requested or in-kind), the PI still is indeed spending time administering the grant. However, I found that the OMB guidelines on "voluntary uncommitted cost-share" state that you do NOT have to track this effort. The pertinent OMB clarification is located here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/memoranda/m01-06.html "Clarification. Voluntary uncommitted cost sharing should be treated differently from committed effort and should not be included in the organized research base for computing the F&A rate or reflected in any allocation of F&A costs. Furthermore, such faculty effort is excluded from the effort reporting requirement in section J.8. This treatment is consistent with the guidance in section J.8.b (1).c, "Payroll Distribution," that a precise documentation of faculty effort is not always feasible, nor is it expected, because of the inextricably intermingled functions performed by the faculty in an academic setting (i.e., teaching, research, service and administration). " Best regards, Vicky Jensen Interim Director, Office of Research and Sponsored Programs California State University, East Bay On 11/10/08 7:19 AM, "Vigiolto, Margaret" <xxxxxx@DREXEL.EDU> wrote: > Hi Kristy, > > In the situation you describe, there is an implicit commitment. I agree > with your logic. Drexel University requires a reasonable estimate of > effort to be recorded in the payroll distribution system. > > Peg Vigiolto > Associate Vice Provost > Office of Research > Drexel University > 3201 Arch Street, Suite 100 > 215.895.2311 phone > 215.895.6699 fax > xxxxxx@drexel.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On > Behalf Of Kristy Ford > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:56 AM > To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org > Subject: [RESADM-L] cost-sharing question > > Hello all! I could not find this detail in the regulations, unless I'm > missing something somewhere. So, I am interested in knowing how your > institutions handle situations involving uncommitted effort. Some > agencies still do not require that a PI commit a certain amount of > effort to a project, even though, as a PI, he/she is obviously going to > spend time on it. Therefore, the proposal and budget does not request > reimbursement towards the PI salary/fringe and does not specify a > percentage of time committed to the project. The budget also does not > include a portion of the PI salary/fringe in the match either. Do you > require that the PI verify his/her time and effort (as an in-kind > contribution) on a project in this situation? I'm inclined to say > "yes," because obviously he/she has to spend time on the project as the > PI. Even if it isn't stated in the proposal or budget, time is > committed by virtue of being the PI. The PI must, then, verify his/her > effort on this projec! > t after it is awarded, how ever much it may truly be. Am I correct in > my thinking? > > I know this was discussed before, but I could not find the e-mails. > More than anything, I want to know that I am correct in my thinking > before telling people they cannot apply for more grants when they have > no time available for more projects. > > Thanks! > Kristy > > Kristy Ford > Grant Management Manager > Financial Reporting Administration > Memorial University Medical Center > Savannah, GA 31404 > (912)350-6379 > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
