As with everything else, it is probably institute specific. However, I received the following from Marcia Hahn for one of my grants in a similar situation. "There is really no set time limit for regular research grants between competitive renewals (there used to be for SBIRs but I think even that has changed). Grants often go into a hiatus period when one competitive segment ends before the next can begin. Sometime we even complete close out that prior segment before we fund the project again. Competing Renewal Applications receive the same grant number as long as the scope of the project has not changed to a point that it would be considered a "New" application. However, keep in mind that we do only allow 2 resubmissions ((amendments). After that the project direction has to change to become a New application. We issued a reminder Notice about this about 15 months ago: http://grants.nih.gov/grants/guide/notice-files/NOT-OD-07-015.html It includes a sentence indicating there is no time limit between amendments. It is not necessary to request additional extensions. In fact, beyond the initial 12-month one that you have automatic authority to extend, any additional extension requests require NIH prior approval; and many ICs will not approve these if the only justification is the desire to keep it technically "active" while resubmissions are submitted." Brenda Kavanaugh Senior Research Administrator Office of Research and Project Administration University of Rochester 518 Hylan Building Rochester, NY 14627 585-275-1504 FAX: 585-275-9492 xxxxxx@orpa.rochester.edu LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately. -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On Behalf Of Donahue, Sherie (LLU) Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:50 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] final technical reports for NIH projects under competitive renewal In a similar situation, one of our PI's was directed by his NIH program director not to close out the project while waiting for the new grant to come through. I think that it has something to do with how many years of continuous funding and how that looks to reviewers. Sherie Donahue, MS Office of the Vice Chancellor for Research Affairs Loma Linda University Loma Linda, CA 92350 909/558-3928 or 909/558-1000, x83911 909/558-0244 (fax) -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Aull, Robert Matthew Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 8:06 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] final technical reports for NIH projects under competitive renewal Zoya, My experience has been that NIH requires that projects remain open in order to be competitively renewed, hence the need for a no-cost extension while the competing proposal is being reviewed. A truly final technical report and/or grant closeout would not be appropriate so long the investigator has a pending application with the same grant number (through the -A2 designation). Robert Aull Indiana University School of Medicine -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Zoya Hamilton Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:36 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] final technical reports for NIH projects under competitive renewal Colleagues, Do you agree that final technical reports should be submitted for the NIH grants that ended before the application for a competitive renewal has been reviewed? I cannot think of a reason how submitting a final progress report can be detrimental to the project's likelihood to be funded in the new cycle. Has anyone experienced any problems with closing grants and then getting a renewal funded? I am asking because some PIs are not comfortable with the idea of closing their grants while they are hoping that their competitive renewal to be funded. Thanks so much for your inputs. 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