Re: Teaching Hospitals - Budgeting for Research Revenue Steve Kahn 18 Aug 2008 21:42 EST
Effective August 1, 2008, Mr. Steven Kahn has retired from Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health. Please forward all business correspondence to Kathleen Dodd, the new Department Administrator for Epidemiology. Kathleen can be contacted at: xxxxxx@columbia.edu Tel: 212-305-0695 Steve will continue to receive personal emails at this email address. ---------------- Original follows ---------------- From xxxxxx@hrinet.org Mon Aug 18 22:42:15 2008 Received: from hrinet.org (hriweb1.wadsworth.org [199.184.19.20]) by tepin.cc.columbia.edu (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m7J2g9qV015035; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:42:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from HRINET.ORG (hrinet.org [199.184.19.20]) by hrinet.org (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m7ILFnjd012150; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:31:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by HRINET.ORG (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 15.0) with spool id 951402 for xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:30:22 -0400 Received: from hriweb2 (hriweb2.wadsworth.org [199.184.19.21]) by hrinet.org (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m7J2KM07000765 for <xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG>; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: by HRIWEB2.WADSWORTH.ORG (LISTSERV AV Station release 1.1/15.0) with spool id 314861 for xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:31:51 -0400 Received: from HRINET.ORG (hrinet.org [199.184.19.20]) by hrinet.org (8.13.7+Sun/8.13.7) with ESMTP id m7ILFnjD012150; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:18:09 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hrinet.org id m7J2I9Mj000703 Message-ID: <LISTSERV%xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 22:18:09 -0400 Reply-To: Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> Sender: Research Administration List <xxxxxx@hrinet.org> From: Joe Lever <xxxxxx@GMAIL.COM> Subject: [RESADM-L] Teaching Hospitals - Budgeting for Research Revenue To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Precedence: list List-Help: <http://hrinet.org/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=RESADM-L>, <mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG?body=INFO%20RESADM-L> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> List-Subscribe: <mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> List-Owner: <mailto:xxxxxx@HRINET.ORG> List-Archive: <http://hrinet.org/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=RESADM-L> X-Spam-Score: -3 () CU_OK_LISTOWN CU_OK_LISTUNSUB CU_DNS_matching_helo_host_hrinet.org X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.63 on 128.59.28.169 I am wondering how others who work at teaching hospitals handle the physician/practice budgets when involving sponsored projects. Conservatism tells me you would not include, for instance, any pending proposal at the time the physician budget is being prepared because we do not yet have the NOA, and in some cases, we do not even have a priority score. In addition, the NIH will not award it until next fiscal year and if we budgeted for $90,000 on a K08 that has been submitted for the first time for the next FY09 budget (running on the same federal government fiscal year), and it was not due to start until 04/01/09 and its status is not known, it should not be included as research revenue as portion of the budgeted figures. How are others handling this? Especially with the uncertainty of the federal budget; change of administrations upcoming; and the lateness of Congress and a new administration to pass a timely budget. So, essentially any proposal for the period 10/01/08 - 09/30/09 as of now is not known for certain would be funded until NOA is received which may not happen until many months into the fiscal year. How are others handling? Suggestions please? Sincerely, Joe Lever, MBA, MPH Director of Sponsored Programs Medicine Administration Boise, Idaho ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================