Re: How much help do you give your PI on Grants.gov Schreiber, Hollie 26 Mar 2008 10:57 EST
<<I believe that the PI's should be doing their science and their administrators should be doing administrative tasks.>> This is where our model is based. Our unwritten motto is "Let us take the administrative burden off of you. You concentrate on the research/science." It's inefficient, imo, to pay a professor's salary to fill out forms that they might do 2-3 times a year. Instead, that time should be used making the science/research/narrative better. THAT is what gets a proposal funded. The forms can be done by someone better trained to do them, more experienced in them, and who is usually making a lower salary. I do Grants.gov forms 100s of times a year. I can do them more quickly, and more correctly, than a PI who only does them 2-3 times a year. FTR, our research offices are decentralized at the college level. My office works only with the College of Arts & Sciences and supports just over 400 faculty. Hollie Schreiber Proposal Development Specialist College of Arts & Sciences 108 LSE Stillwater, OK 74078 (405) 744-8458 (405) 744-3285 fax -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Beattie Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:39 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] How much help do you give your PI on Grants.gov From a recent look at our data, the estimate is that 8% of faculty prepare their applications. Rest are done by unit level staff. Our University Grants Office does no grant preparation. Cyndie, Is that a good answer for your needs? :) Maybe you need to differentiate among different size institutions and numbers of submissions. We are doing a couple thousand applications a year. Even with 6 Grants Offices, and equal support staff, they are barely able to keep up with the flow. I refer to just those who deal with G.g. I spend much time giving classes and answering questions/ solving problems. Our grants officers give advice and check applications. I believe that the PI's should be doing their science and their administrators should be doing administrative tasks. PIs write the scientific part of the application and develop general budget guidelines. Their staff or unit staff do the forms and other attachments. This model might work for a large volume institution but not for small schools. Isn't the model for each place very dependent on what the local expectations are, and what local resources are? In any event, the less forms filling PI's need to do the better. Bob ------------------------------ Robert Beattie UMich Grants.gov Liaison Managing Project Representative for Electronic Research Administration Division of Research Development and Administration University of Michigan xxxxxx@umich.edu (734) 936-1283 Learn more about Grants.gov @ UMICH http://www.research.umich.edu/era/grants_gov/ On Mar 26, 2008, at 11:08 AM, Cynthia L Nichols/GC/EXP/UTIA wrote: We would like to know how other institutions are handling grants.gov. 1) Does the PI enter the data in grants.gov or does someone who works with the PI? 2) Does the sponsored programs office enter the data? We are trying to determine what level of service is provided by most sponsored programs offices. Any information would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Cyndie Cynthia Nichols, CPA Grants and Contracts Tennessee Agricultural Experiment Station 2621 Morgan Circle, 103 Morgan Hall (865) 974-7123 (865) 974-7451 FAX xxxxxx@utk.edu ====================================================================== I nstructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================