Steve, this is great!

Can we at least have a smile, that it is possible to have
Professional 8 _residing_ on a PC with ADOBE READER 8.1.1 also
residing.  And, we can be running Reader to manage an application
with Professional residing but not open?

The frown comes if you try to RUN professional and reader at the same
time.  Or if we open Professional first.

Might a temporary instructional solution be to tell everyone to close
Professional anytime they want to open an application.  Then open the
application with Reader?  Also, as you suggest, verify what program
is open.  On my Dell, with Windows XP Pro, the actual name of the
running program shows at the top of the window, next to the name of
the file.  Is that a special preference to set?

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:27 PM, Shapiro, Steve wrote:

In lieu of all of the recent posts concerning multiple versions of
Adobe Acrobat on the same Windows PC, I decided to do some testing in
order to determine exactly what behavior(s) Adobe exhibits.  The
results are causing an extreme lack of the use of my smiling
muscles :-(. What I found corroborates what Bob posted @ 8:30 Tues
morning.

The bottom line: Please instruct your staff who prepare proposals to
always manually verify that they are using Adobe Reader 8.1.1 when
working on application packages.

The procedure to manually verify the version is to open the Help menu
option and select "About Adobe Acrobat … "

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And now, for those who are interested - the details in what I hope is
an understandable format. I verified each of these tests on two
different machines

I downloaded one of the Adobe Test Packages from Grants.gov

Scenario 1: Abode Reader 8.1.1. + Adobe Professional 6.0.x on the
same machine

Action  Results
Ensured Reader 8.1.1 association        I checked that Adobe Reader
8.1.1 was the default application for .PDF files
Opened App in 8.1.1     OK
Attempted to open App in 6.0    Error Message, would not open
Opened another pdf in 6 I wanted to edit it and make forms changes...
Minimized 'other doc'   I need to work on a grant app
Attempted to open App in 8.1.1. Right click and select 'Open in Adobe
Reader'   It tried to open in 6.0. On one computer, it reset my file
association for .PDF to Acrobat 6 Professional! I received an error
message when trying to open (whew!)

 Bottom Line: It does not play nice, but I don't think App
Packages open in 6, so there is little danger.
Scenario 1: Abode Reader 8.1.1. + Adobe Acrobat 8.0.0 on the same
machine

Action  Results
Ensured Reader 8.1.1 association        I checked that Adobe Reader
8.1.1 was the default application for .PDF files
Opened App in 8.1.1     OK
Attempted to open App in 8.0.0  Opened without error or problem! This
is bad, but I did it to myself :-)
Opened another pdf in Acrobat 8.0.0     I wanted to edit it and make
forms changes...
Minimized 'other doc'   I need to work on a grant app
Attempted to open App in 8.1.1. Right click and select 'Open in Adobe
Reader 8' It opened in Acrobat 8.0.0! This is BAD! Really Big Frown Bad

the good news is that it did not change file associations

 Bottom Line: We have a serious problem here. If you have a
document open in Acrobat 8, and attempt to open another  document in
Adobe Reader 8.1.1 - It will open in Adobe Acrobat 8 (not reader). If
this is an application and you then save the file, it will become
corrupt, and will not successfully submit.

At the University of Oregon we regard this as a serious problem, and
are currently examining the application packages in an attempt to
determine if we can programatically catch corrupt application
packages prior to submission. It's a complex process, and do not have
any results to report so far.

Steve Shapiro
Technical Group Manager
Office of Research Services and Administration
University of Oregon

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