This is a prime reason why IT staff should be involved in the day-to-day operations of your institution's SRO. Providing IT support to an SRO office is a very specialized endeavor. There are many quirks, special language and abbreviations, and specific knowledge that an IT professional must have in order to provide the staff with accurate information and assistance. When confronted with a new situation, we need that background in order to know where to go to find the solution that you need to continue your work. Excuse me for a second while I get up on my soapbox: IT professionals should get more recognition, sessions and information at conferences and online education. We form the backbone of everything you do. The activity of an SRO office would come to a screaming halt if the computer hardware, infrastructure or application software were to fail. We can do a much better job supporting you if you acknowledge us and include us in your plans. Institutions should encourage their IT professionals to attend National and Regional meetings. National and Regional meetings should have tracks that empower and educate IT professionals to excel in their work with the SRO. We have many capable IT professionals working in SROs around the country who can be tapped to lead these endeavors, with the goal of grooming a future generation of SRO IT support professionals. Just as SPAs have to be grown and groomed, so must the support staff. End of Soap box. Steve Shapiro Technical Group Manager University of Oregon On 1/22/08, xxxxxx@umich.edu <xxxxxx@umich.edu> wrote: > This is what I am telling our campus. > > "Concerning what you need to process grants, you can believe your IT > Support staff or you can believe Grants.gov staff. The Grants.gov > staff say to use ADOBE READER 8.1.1 to download, open, fill in and > submit grant applications." > > In so far as federal grant applications are concerned, I suspect most > IT Support staff are, in most cases, under-informed. They are well > meaning people who think they are doing what is in the best interest of > those whom they support. I am sorry if I sound harsh here, I have > been, shall we say, politely, "discussing" this issue with a number of > well meaning people on our campus. I would like to think, in grants > management, our IT colleagues will carry out the necessary support > role, once the grants people tell them what is needed. > > This is turning out to be painful for everyone. I hope General > Dynamics had planned for a better outcome than they have gotten when > they sold Grants.gov on using Adobe, a program over which they have no > control, and which is much more complicated, for a University, than > they could have anticipated. > > Back to IT. No matter what those folks say, you need to use ADOBE > READER 8.1.1. You cannot use Professional and believe, as some IT > people have told me, it will work "just like Reader." If you believe > that, then move your submission deadline back a few days to compensate > for all the invalid applications. I know that most IT managers must > centrally control what goes on peoples' computers. This can be at a > department or even an institutional level. I suspect this did not go > into the General Dynamics calculation for success. They probably > assumed everyone just installed whatever was wanted, whenever it was > convenient. So cause for more pain. > > The proverbial "bottom line" is that you should make ADOBE READER 8.1.1 > your browser default program to open all .pdf files from the internet. > You can still use other Adobe programs to make .pdf attachment files. > The other Adobe programs will still work in conjunction with Reader. > Be careful, however, when you open up Professional as it will ask you > to make it your browser default. Just say no. > > The newest statement from Grants.gov staff, who are trying to be as > helpful as possible as they are caught in the middle of all this, is > that you should not use both Reader 7.0.9 and 8.1.1 on the same file or > you will get even more problems. Thus I am, as well, asking our campus > to use only ADOBE READER 8.1.1. > > I hope this long explanation sheds some light on this as Suzan requested. > > Bob > ____________________________ > Robert Beattie UMich Grants.gov Liaison > Managing Project Representative for eRA > Division of Research Development and Administration University of > Michigan 734 936-1283 > xxxxxx@umich.edu > > > > Quoting Suzan G Lund <xxxxxx@UNLNOTES.UNL.EDU>: > >> Does anyone out there know how having the Adobe Acrobat Professional >> (version 8.1.1) affects the use of the new forms packages? We've only had >> limited exposure to the forms packages thus far and are not clear if using >> Acrobat Professional, which our office has, creates/solves any problems. >> We're only hearing about the use of Reader 8.1.1. Even our IT guys aren't >> sure. Any light you can shed would be helpful. Thanks. >> >> Suzan G. Lund, CRA >> Associate Director >> Sponsored Programs >> University of Nebraska-Lincoln >> 312 N. 14th St., Alexander West >> Lincoln, NE 68588-0430 >> Ph: 402-472-1930 Fax: 402-472-9323 >> email: xxxxxx@unl.edu >> >> Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change >> the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. 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