There are many technical issues that have not been resolved and/or are being ignored that will become germain to our ability to submit grant proposals. One of these is the fact that multiple Adobe Acrobat applications do not install 'cleanly' on Windows systems. Specifically, if a user has a paid Adobe Acrobat product (6, 7 or 8) installed on their computer that enables them to create or modify Acrobat documents; they also have to install Acrobat Reader 8.1.1 which will enable them to fill out Grants.gov applications. Then a user has to right click on the application file and explicity tell Acrobat to "Open With Acrobat 8.1.1" The problem is that Adobe does not always open the specified version that a user may request, and depending on the software configuration, may open the other version of Acrobat. Unless the user checks to ensure that the 8.1.1 Reader is open while editing the application package, they may inadvertendly mangle their proposal. This corruption will not be caught until the proposal fails validation @ grants.gov. Similarly, Reader 8.1.1 may come up when the user really wants their paid version in order to create or modify a document. This is going to require quite a bit of analysis on our end, and we hope to have some solutions for our institution and beyond within a few weeks to months. This is all brand new and we have not had time to adjust. Steve Shapiro IT support Office of Research Services and Administration University of Oregon -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Larkin Tom Sent: Friday, November 16, 2007 9:49 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] Question about Grants.Gov and Adobe Reader 8.1.1 I was confused by this post since older versions of Adobe Reader don't create files. But I downloaded Adobe Reader 8.1.1 and it seems to come up as the program of choice when you opt to "print" - i.e. save a file as a PDF. Does version 8.1.1 have functions that are more like Adobe Acrobat? We will be submitting next week via Grants.gov so my interest in this is more than academic. Thanks, Larkin Tom Southwestern University Robert R. Beattie wrote: > These errors mean that the Adobe Form Application (AFA) was either > prepared with something other than Adobe Reader 7.0.9 or 8.1.1 or > maybe submitted with some other program. Most likely the preparer used > another version of reader or used Acrobat. You cannot tell what > program was used until you do the submission and find out that it was > the wrong one. Re-do the whole AFA with the corrrect program. > > The Grants.gov warning that only Reader 7.0.9 or 8.1.1 will work with > applications is TRUE. Spread the word to your campuses, get the right > version of Reader. > > Bob > xxxxxx@umich.edu > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 13:04:53 -0900 > Andrew Parkerson-Gray <xxxxxx@UAF.EDU> wrote: >> Speaking of Adobe and Grants.gov, does anyone have a clue what the >> heck these errors mean? They're totally cryptic. Grants.gov is yet to >> respond to me...I've gone over the application several times, and >> nothing seems to be missing or out of place...Any ideas? >> >> Cheers, >> Andrew >> >>> Dear Applicant: >>> >>> Your submission was received on 2007-11-14T13:37:40-04:00 >>> . >>> However it contained the following error and cannot be forwarded to >>> the granting agency. >>> >>> >>> Error: Schema validation failed DefaultValidationHandler found 4 >>> problems: >>> 4 Errors: >>> 1: (line 2 column 3976) cvc-complex-type.2.4.d: Invalid content >>> starting with element 'SF424A:BudgetSummary'. No child element is >>> expected at this point. >>> 2: (line 2 column 8020) cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content >>> starting with element 'globLib:State'. One of >>> '{"http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":State, >>> "http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":Province, >>> "http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":ZipPostalCode, >>> "http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":Country}' is >>> expected. >>> 3: (line 2 column 8347) cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content >>> starting with element 'globLib:PrefixName'. One of >>> '{"http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":PrefixName, >>> "http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":FirstName}' is >>> expected. >>> 4: (line 2 column 10693) cvc-complex-type.2.4.a: Invalid content >>> starting with element 'globLib:PrefixName'. One of >>> '{"http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":PrefixName, >>> "http://apply.grants.gov/system/GlobalLibrary-V2.0":FirstName}' is >>> expected. >>> >>> The document is NOT valid! >>> >>> Please correct the above error and resubmit your application to >>> Grants.gov. >> >> >> Tracy Springberry wrote: >>> I just submitted a USGS non competing budget for this year via >>> Grants.gov and it was on Adobe forms. >>> >>> Tracy Springberry >>> >>> >> >> >> ===================================================================== >> = >> Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including >> subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available >> via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") >> ====================================================================== > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including > subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available > via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================