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Re: R01 Page Limits Robert Beattie 05 Oct 2007 09:26 EST

Keep in mind the difference between pieces of paper and pages.  You
start with text that is 25 pages and 25 pieces of paper if you
print.  You divide into the 4 components.  You might now have more
than 25 pieces of paper because of the way the pages got broken up.
You could cut and paste those pieces of paper back into 25.
However, if you started with just 25 original pages/pieces of paper,
the NIH page counter will know that you are ok.  The system will
allow 28 pieces of paper to account for the extra "white" space after
you make the division.  You do get a warning to remind you that you
cannot have more than 25 original pages, even though you might have
28 now.

The counter is quite good, as it has found applications that did have
more than 25 original pages; those get an error.  I do not know why
there needs to be the warning for something that is acceptable.

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

On Oct 5, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Schoen, Alexander wrote:

It's D-day again,

We have a grant going in that is 26 pages (6 extra lines in Rsch
Design) after breaking up into PDF's.  The SF 424 instructions claim
that they won't count the "white space."  In your experience, does
this hold true, or would we be better off having the page numbers
match the required 25 pages?

 From page I-20 of the Instructions.
While each section of the Research Plan needs to eventually be
uploaded separately, applicants are encouraged to construct the
Research Plan as a single document, separating sections into distinct
PDF attachments just before uploading the files. In this way the
applicant can better monitor formatting requirements such as page
limits. When validating for page limits, the eRA Commons will not
count the white space created by breaking the text into separate
files for uploading.

Thank you.

Alex
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Director, Office of Sponsored Programs
Winthrop-University Hospital
222 Station Plaza North, Suite 510
Mineola, NY  11501
Phone: (516) 663-4931
Fax:     (516) 663-9718
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