Diana, Although it is impossible to be sure from a distance, I think Kate is right. The only software that will save the data you fill in to the form is the writer, not the reader. If your version 8 is only the reader, it will have to revert to the version 7 writer to save the info. Dawn Dawn Underwood, Director Sponsored Programs IRB Administrator Erickson Hall 511 Indiana State University Terre Haute, Indiana Phone: 812-237-3088 Fax: 812-237-3092 >>> "Vincelli, Diana" <xxxxxx@RICHMOND.EDU> 9/28/2007 3:00 PM >>> But the form is already a pdf - a fillable form - when you download it from the NEH website. You get the feeling that the folks that dream up these application procedures and rules don't test them out first! That can't be right. I know the folks at NEH are pretty frustrated, because they have been fielding a lot of phone calls! Diana Thompson Vincelli Director of Grant Support Office of Foundation, Corporate & Government Relations G-14 Maryland Hall University of Richmond, VA 23173 804.289.8005; fax 804.289-8943 xxxxxx@richmond.edu http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/grants ________________________________ From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Katie Hudson Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:56 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NEH Summer Stipend Application submission issue Reader won't allow you to create a pdf. Your computer is using its only PDF-making software--Adobe Professional 7.0--to save the form. You'll need to use Adobe Acrobat or Professional 8.0 to produce a form in 8.0. Good luck! -Katie At 11:44 AM 9/28/2007, you wrote: I have Adobe 8 Reader on my computer, as well as Adobe Professional 7.0 So even if I fill in the document in 8.0, it always saves it in 7.0, and there is no remedy to this that my help desk knows of. I have asked NEH (yesterday am) if I may scan the filled in document and then up load, but they haven't answered me yet. Does anyone have a solution? This is a big pain! Diana Diana Thompson Vincelli Director of Grant Support Office of Foundation, Corporate & Government Relations G-14 Maryland Hall University of Richmond, VA 23173 804.289.8005; fax 804.289-8943 xxxxxx@richmond.edu http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/grants -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [ mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org <mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org> ] On Behalf Of McWhorter,Sharon Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:50 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NEH Summer Stipend Application submission issue We had the same problem. Once I downloaded the 8.0 reader and then downloaded the form with that, it went in just fine. I hope grants.gov and NEH (and any other agencies out there!) can get on the same page with the version they require for submissions. Sharon McWhorter Associate Director Research Services and Sponsored Programs The University of Akron Akron, OH 44325-2102 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [ mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org <mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org> ] On Behalf Of Deborah Lundin Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 1:26 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] NEH Summer Stipend Application submission issue Deb, I just worked with one of our faculty nominees and ran into the same issue. All the documents (minus the Supplemental info form) were converted using Adobe 7, but I had to seek out a computer with Adobe 8 for the Supplemental info form. My thought on the g.g use of Adobe 7.0.9 and NEH Adobe 8 is this: since the form is an attachment (and not part of the shell g.g package) the form should come through successfully. I guess if it doesn't, NEH is more than aware that this is an issue that shouldn't penalize the applicant (that would be my HOPE). I have had several communications with NEH on this issue. Also note that the applicants will not receive the final g.g email that says that the grantor agency has assigned the proposal a tracking number until after October 2. Please feel free to contact me directly if you think I can provide any more info: xxxxxx@uncp.edu. Deborah -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [ mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org <mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org> ] On Behalf Of Deb Gould Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 12:58 PM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] NEH Summer Stipend Application submission issue Hi, Does anyone have advice on how to successfully submit the NEH Summer Stipend application through grants.gov? We have faculty members trying to submit for next week's deadline who registered for g.g individually. One of the forms in the application package, the Supplemental Information form for Individuals, must, according to the guidelines, be downloaded and saved in Adobe 8.0. Unless that happens, according to NEH, the form can't be saved. We have Adobe 7.0. While the application submitted today passed successfully through g.g, it was rejected by NEH because that pdf form was improperly saved. If I can obtain 8.0 to successfully save the form, will it be accepted in g.g even though they say 7.0.9 is their preferred version? Neither the NEH or grants.gov help desks would commit on this question. I'd appreciate any advice/opinions. Thanks! Deb Deborah Gould Assistant Director for Grant Services Sponsored Programs SUNY New Paltz HAB 805, 1 Hawk Drive New Paltz, NY 12561 tel. (845) 257-3281 ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org <http://www.hrinet.org/> (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org <http://www.hrinet.org/> (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org <http://www.hrinet.org/> (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org <http://www.hrinet.org/> (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== Katie Hudson Contracts and Grants Analyst Extramural Funds Accounting - Molecular and Cell Biology University of California, Berkeley 40 Giannini Hall 142 LSA, Mail Code # 3200 Berkeley, CA 94720 Phone/voice: 510.642.7299 Fax: 510.643.9919 E-mail: xxxxxx@berkeley.edu ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
