We are looking at one side of the equation. Another side of the equation is also does or will the agency have enough funding allowed by their own funding sources. For NIH, federal legislature may decide to cut drastically (not unheard of) funding for such programs. In this case, calling may just help find out if there is any money at all to disburse. And there may be other sides as well ... But I agree that we should give it our best shot by using all resources available. J. Felix Gadi Integrative Biology & Pharmacology MSB 4.102 phone 713-500-6322 fax 713-500-7444 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Pate, Carolyn I Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:27 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Contacting the Sponsor Yes, indeed, and the science could likely be top-notch in both situations; focusing on the interests of the funder does not de facto mean that the science is compromised. Carolyn Pate, Director Office of Proposal Development J. C. Kellam Building, Suite 489 Texas State University-San Marcos 601 University Drive San Marcos, TX 78666-4616 ph: 512-245-2314 fx: 512-245-3847 -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Young,Elaine M Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:53 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Contacting the Sponsor On the other hand, talking to the sponsor (program director) prior to writing tends to help the PI focus on things that the sponsor is interested in - thus may lead to better score. -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Gibbs, Patricia Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 10:38 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Contacting the Sponsor Excellent point, Charlie! ________________________________ From: Research Administration List on behalf of Charlie Hathaway Sent: Thu 8/16/2007 10:19 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Contacting the Sponsor Regardless of source, the statement itself implies that quality of the idea/science/research plan was either not significant in the funding decision or not a variable considered. Assuming the latter, given the near impossibility of measuring this variable without direct input from each review committee, the value of the study and the preeminence of pre-submission contact in the proposal success equation are questionable. CH > Hi All, > > > > It's a widely held tenet of the profession that contacting program officers prior to submitting a proposal will increase the likelihood of getting funded (I don't disagree), and many cite David Bauer's statement that "In a study of 10,000 federal proposals, the only variable that was statistically significant in separating the funded and rejected > proposals was pre-proposal contact with the funding source. Chances for success increase an estimated threefold when contact with the funding source takes place before the proposal is written." > > > > I frequently trot out this line myself in proposal writing workshops, but I wonder... Can anyone actually provide a reference to the study Bauer mentions? > > > > Craig > > > > -- > > Craig Reynolds / Office of Research & Sponsored Programs / > > Central Michigan University / Foust 251 / Mount Pleasant, MI 48859 / > > T: 989.774.3859 / F: 989.774.3439 / E: xxxxxx@cmich.edu > <mailto:xxxxxx@cmich.edu> > > > > > > ====================================================================== > Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") > ====================================================================== > ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ====================================================================== ====================================================================== Instructions on how to use the RESADM-L Mailing List, including subscription information and a web-searchable archive, are available via our web site at http://www.hrinet.org (click on "Listserv Lists") ======================================================================
