Re: Is it just me? Mike L. Varney 26 Jul 2007 10:42 EST
Having a list moderator slows down the responsiveness of the list discussions drastically. Every once in a while, side discussions happen. They are brief. I believe you'll see that the benefits of having an open and unmoderated list far outweigh having to delete a few emails (or in this case, 50!) -- M "Bloomberg, Robert" <xxxxxx@TUFTS To -NEMC.ORG> xxxxxx@hrinet.org Sent by: Research cc Administration List Subject <xxxxxx@hrinet. Re: [RESADM-L] Is it just me? org> 07/26/2007 11:32 AM Please respond to Research Administration Discussion List <xxxxxx@hrinet. org> I have a suggestion that might just resolve this debate. The list could appoint an arbiter. It would be his/her job to review all emails for correctness. Only those emails that passed prescribed criteria would be sent to the list. Now, you ask, what are the criteria. That's easy. There are, I assume, hundreds of people who subscribe to the list, and each one has her/his own unique point of view. We wouldn't want to favor any one of these people. So the criteria would be--whatever the arbiter wanted. Now I ask you--is that solution any less reasonable than the debate we are having over whether one particular email is allowed on the list, or 10 on the same topic, or 100? -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org]On Behalf Of Vicki Krell Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:14 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is it just me? I have to agree. I love the extremely valuable suggestions, tips and advice, the sharing of experiences and knowledge since we all have different backgrounds and lengths of tenure and experience, and I find the humor a welcome respite from the 9,000 other non-funny e-mails I have to deal with every day. As Janis said below, if there’s a topic I’m not interested in keeping up with, I delete. Vicki Vicki Krell, CRA Sponsored Projects Site Supervisor Office for Research and Sponsored Projects Admin. Arizona State University (480) 965-2171 (480) 965-1703 - fax xxxxxx@asu.edu -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Lenox, Janis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:44 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: Re: [RESADM-L] Is it just me? It is because of the freedom to respond in both fun and serious modes that build the camaraderie for all of us. If there is something that I'm not interested in and the emails continue, I just delete. Not that hard with today's computers. I would say, yes, today it is just you. I found the emails this morning funny and I really needed to laugh. thanks Janis Lenox, Director, Contracts & Grants Northern California Institute for Research and Education (NCIRE) 4150 Clement Street, NC-151 San Francisco, CA 94121-1545 Office: 415-750-6954, ext. 5536 Fax: 415-750-9358 Email: xxxxxx@ncire.org website: www.ncire.org -----Original Message----- From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Lewis Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:33 AM To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org Subject: [RESADM-L] Is it just me? I find this listserv to be awesome because if an essential question is posed we all demonstrate our camaraderie as Research Administrators by helping someone out with a meaningful response despite our limited time in our daily professions. The wealth of information that all of you provide/share is exceedingly helpful and the knowledge base of the participants of this listserv shines through. For that, I am grateful and will continue to be an active member of this listserv. With that said however, I find it to be unnecessarily disruptive to keep "replying-all" to non-essential topics that just clutter our inboxes with topics, which quite frankly can be discussed directly (offline) with the person(s) who initiated the joke/pastime story/etc. I think we can all agree that we are all the victims of being stressed, overworked, (some underpaid), and in need of some much needed TLC but I don't see why days later we are still addressing and replying to these topics. Is it just me? I am not directing this to anyone in particular, but I'd rather be disrupted to read something that will teach me something and add to my knowledge base as an Administrator rather than being "a part" of a session of which I have no interest. My apologies if I have offended anyone and if you have issues with this correspondence feel free to respond to me directly if it suits you. However, it is my opinion that we can utilize this awesome resource more responsibly and with more consideration. Michelle A. 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