Hi Bob,

I have done a quick fill of sample form and in response to your questions and comments, here is what I discovered:

1. The "required field" notice could be an annoyance but as I was quickly tabbing through the fields I did miss one and it served as a nice, albeit non-subtle reminder.
2. No double-click is quite an irritant, this step seems a bit archaic
3. Using a Windows machine running XP I was unable to get the attachment to print as well
4. The auto-fill option has been available for Adobe for a while- if you have a limited number of information for fields it can be very beneficial although as you do more and more the information on the pick list can become great and varied
5. Is a good thing as is being able to use the scroll wheel on the form itself (I hope this is not just a test form bonus)

Thanks for the heads up on the availability, I'm curious to see what they will be discussing.

Cynthia

Cynthia Lysen
Research Education Lead
Office of Sponsored Research
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center
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From: Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] On Behalf Of Robert Beattie
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 8:57 AM
To: xxxxxx@hrinet.org
Subject: [RESADM-L] Sample Adobe Form available

As part of the materials for the Grants.gov webcast today, there is a
sample 424R&R face page available for download
http://www.grants.gov/resources/stakeholder_communications.jsp

Now there is a chance to review this.  Open with various versions of
Adobe.  Fill it out.  Note various aspects of it.

1.  Put your cursor into a yellow field and then tab or otherwise
move it out.  You get a big pop up box telling you its a required
field.  I find this very very annoying.  Anyone else think this is a
feature we can do without?

2.  How to open a form.  No double click like other 21st century
programs, not even highlight and click open form on left.  First you
must move it to the right, and then highlight and click open form?
Why move to open.  By the way, when there are a number of forms on
the left, you can move them in any order unlike the PureEdge where
they stayed in the original order when moved.  I wonder if NIH will
have a problem putting forms back into order.

3. Print?  Add an attachment, then try to print, do you get the
attachment printed?  If not (I do not get it), then I hope everyone
will write a message in to the webcast asking for a full print
option.  If the system is to meet our expectations, then it must do
this.

4.  One good thing, is it just on Macs?  Once I fill in a field, the
next time I enter that field, with a new application, the previous
entry shows in a pull down list.  So once I enter the Organization
name on one application, it is just a matter of clicking in the field
to get it next time.  Try this.  Save a blank form, enter something
in a required field, save.  Then open up a new from and see if that
info is available in that field.

5.  Second good thing.   Once you move all the forms to the right
box, you can use the page slider on the right to move up and down
through all the pages of all forms.  Almost as good as double clicking.

Just a few things to get you started looking at a form.

Bob
xxxxxx@umich.edu

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