It seems that there are several issues above and beyond the IP one. 1. The proposal was joint between the other institution and USF so it should have gone through your internal clearance procedures that would have specified the budget along with a letter of support from USF. At this point, however, it is too late for the other institution to do anything. It seems that after-the-fact clearance procedures are necessary. 2. If your faculty member is buying out teaching time then the grant money will have to be funneled through the USF. This makes a subcontract necessary. A sub is needed if the grant has other cost items for USF such as supplies, equipment, student salaries, etc. The other institution will need the sub to send or reimburse USF. 3. I do not understand how the faculty member will both reduce teaching time and make extra money without a sub. Most grants prohibit faculty making more than 100% of their academic year salary. How will your faculty person become an employee of the other institution? Pamela Miller wrote: > > That is an excellent point. I don’t think so in this case, but it > would be a problem if there were any IP. > > What about the institution that submitted the proposal—it went to NIH. > Shouldn’t they have required something from our institution before > submitting something involving our faculty? Shouldn’t they need > something from us now? What is their responsibility in this situation? > > Pamela F. Miller, Ph.D. > Director, Office of Sponsored Projects > The University of San Francisco > 2130 Fulton Street > San Francisco, CA 94117-1080 > TEL 415-422-5368 > FAX 415-422-6222 > EMAIL xxxxxx@usfca.edu <mailto:xxxxxx@usfca.edu> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On > Behalf Of *Cephas, Lesley > *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2007 10:12 AM > *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org > *Subject:* Re: [RESADM-L] wandering PI > > Hi Pam, > > Is there any chance that tangible intellectual property might result > from your faculty member’s involvement in the project? > > Lesley > > Lesley K. Cephas, Director of Research Administration > > School of Public Health and Health Professions > > University at Buffalo, The State University of New York > > 3435 Main Street > > Buffalo, NY 14214 > > (716) 829-2975 Ext. 630 > > (716) 829-2979 Fax > > http://www.sphhp.buffalo.edu > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* Research Administration List [mailto:xxxxxx@hrinet.org] *On > Behalf Of *Pamela Miller > *Sent:* Monday, July 02, 2007 1:07 PM > *To:* xxxxxx@hrinet.org > *Subject:* [RESADM-L] wandering PI > > I received an inquiry from a faculty member who cooperated in the > submission of a proposal to a federal agency from another institution > (without going through channels here). This is a tenure track > associate professor. > > The proposal was funded. > > I suggested that we set up a subcontract from the awarded institution > to our institution for a portion of her salary during the academic year. > > The faculty member tells me why bother since she can reduce her time > at our institution and become an employee of the other institution and > make extra money without a sub. This may or may not be true, but can > someone give me some reasons why this would be a bad idea? > > Pam > > Pamela F. 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